I think Trever Hunt mentioned 2,500 was needed to break even (Jack Dearden thought it was 3,000 but Trevor was adament it was 2,500 after he'd interviewed someone at Leigh).

2,500 , 3,000 or 4,000 are all figures that I'm sorry to say are totally unrealistic figures in the Championship.
Widnes struggle to average that and they have a relative recent history of major success in RL and have played in SL for more than 1 season (thus have a fan base built from that to fall back on).

The projections should be 1,800 for the bigger championship clubs (Us, Fax, Fev, Barrow) with the rest looking at a break even of 900- 1,000, sorry figures but IMO the realistic ones.

Yep, head, sand, dig and place in hole.

Lets see what Trev does and how he communicates after he's seen the numbers. The accounts for 2009 show a debt to AT of well over a million and growing - now JiC why would that be??

I slightly disagree with you about our ability to increase our gates.
If we can be consistantly good in this league i believe we can get 3000 gates. If we are to increase the gates beyond that figure then every decision the club makes needs to be the right one with quite a few brave ones as well.

Buggered if I know?

But on several threads you or someone calls A T for not seeking help and not willing to take on help to fund it,so T Barton just thought ooh I'm on tv I'll not check anything I'll just spout a load of balony is what your saying?

Think we have found the King of the negative nellies here araise KING NELLIE

Fairly simple maths , by the time you deduct for concessions and kids , then take out the LSV s share , then VAT , you will be very lucky to see £ 8 per ' attendee ' , times that by 2500 gives you £ 20,000 per game , once again times that by 15 games gives £ 300 K per year , that pays for your playing squad , not including your nat Ins , you then have coaches wages , rent , community , phones countless other costs

The break even at Hilton Park was around 2,800 , but we had several other income streams no longer available to us , ie food drinks sales , stadium advertising , even merchandise sales

Plus quite simply the fact that I know roughly what our Chairman has been contributing each season , so to make that amount up requires 1,500 paying spectators at the maths I have just given you above

That's fine Jenky , if we want to reduce the Championship salary cap to a third of what it currently is

So according to your guess work we are £9,000 every other week[home game] down in the season hardly a unworkable sum of money?

Don't get me wrong, I think Leigh can get higher gates consistently but I think thats a fair way down the track with lots of work required off field to achieve it.
We have improved massively but we are still a long way off being the towns focal point.
Operating in the league we do is a huge turn off for many but I feel the club was slowly getting the right ideas in and was targetting the right areas, but it will still take a long time for us to average 3,000 in a league where 2,000 is deemed way above average as a spectator paying gate.
The work done with juniors by the club/RFL this year will have put some seeds down, we need lots more but for now that is something to be positive about once all these problems become resolved.

You amuse me and give me a reason to live, I thank you deeply

Then are the clubs being totally unrealistic ?
Last nights gate was a big one for Championship RL and yet would fall way short of some of the projections posted to break even.
I don't think any Championship clubs should be looking at gates that in the short term are incredibly unrealistic to achieve if they need double what they get just to survive.

dont know where you coming from maurice but trev couldnt even be bothered to go and talk to his staff when he was appointed so dont talk about trev communicating cos he does not know how his words were i didnt know i come here to talk to staff

Why are they unrealistic ?

If all you are doing to try to increase them is hope they will come , then quite simply they won't

If you are trying to get somebody to buy a new brand of wine in a supermarket , or maybe a new flavour of pizza , what do you do ?

You give them a free sample

How many people , mostly kids have never set foot inside the LSV to watch Leigh ?

Why do people go to watch live sport ? , or a concert that they can watch on video or TV for a fraction of the cost ? , why have they had to have a lottery for the tickets for the Olympics ? , when you will get a much better view on the TV for free ?

Our problem is the money we have to pay to the LSV for each match we play there.

We have a chance to grow our fanbase with this team and coach.

Be part of that. The Consortium can negotiate with the LSV and our players can stop worrying about if they will receive their next pay cheque.

Anyone who can afford make your pledge' join LISA or just make sure you attend our home games.

I've noticed one or two TB MBE grudge holders appearing now