we should conentrate on the now and like you say lets be positive, we should for this season aim for 2500 average and then increase year on year.

just like we were dreaming about winning the league after our shambolic administration, and a team with the average age of 84!

theres nothing wrong with abit of ambition.....i remember been at school on the halifax/bradford border 15 years ago,

halifax and bradford were decent supported teams. nothing to pick really between levels of support.

abit of attention to detail, and some good marketing by the bulls and in 10 years they won how many leagues/cups?!

5-6000 crowds to 15-20000 crowds. all by chucking afew cheerleaders on and some fireworks...with cheap tickets for kids.

it wont happen over night, but i for one am very exited about this year, and the appointment of our new marketing director.

widnes are going to super league.

we are the best package other than that to market outside the top division....bring it on!!!

Errr Featherstone Rovers 'won the league' Halifax won the 'play off's' there is a difference.

Err you are right. No one cares who won the league.

Its sad but your probably right.

WHERE DID I SAY THAT FAX WON THE LEAGUE?! I SED BRADFORD WON AFEW..



POINT IS LEIGH SPEND BIG MONEY ON 'HAS BEEN' SCRUM HALF, AND COACH FROM DOWN UNDER, GET KNOWHERE.

FAX REALISE THEY NEED TO GO FORWARD WITH CROWDS, AND OFF THE FIELD ACTIVITIES TO GET TO WHERE WE DESERVE TO BE.

GOOD LUCK WITH THE COMING SEASON....ITS GONNA BE A CLOSE ONE ME THINKS.

Yes your right. As has been said one will be remembered as the Champions of 2010 and the other, well no one will remember what they did in 2010.

I thought i would have a nosey and see how long before the topic derailed but back on topic i chuckled to myself about the 10K figure but you gotta dream havnt you. If you didnt dream you would just realise that theres no chance of going anywhere in this sport and that it is dieing a slow death.

Doesn't matter 'who cares' or not it's another FACT that is overlooked and for what it's worth winning the league should be the premier title not the play-offs (if people want going back to promotion and relegation then go the whole 'hog' and have the right team promoted -the one thats been the most consistent over 30 games instead of 2 or 3) but it would seem we have adopted another Australian/American idea through the back door.

Totally agree with you ,its quite ludicrous that a club can be named champions on the back of a few games when the REAL champs are the club that won the league ,to think if there was P&R and the league winners didn't win the play offs what a travesty that would be.

It happened to us the season Widnes got promoted.

That figures tut

The guy has said 10,000 is the LONG TERM Target. If you do not set tough goals you often wont be pushing yourself to the Max. We have seen the usual gimmicks tried at various clubs and it has brought little response. Bradford for example have tried various different schemes that many have thought wierd or sceptical. But a number have worked including the latest Season Ticket Offer. So maybe out of the box ideas are worth giving a go at.I am glad somebody with a knowledge of marketing is prepared to put his head on the block and come out with the statement. Maybe He and Fax will fail. But least they will have tried. Its something the whole game needs to do and look at various ways at improving Crowds as well as the way clubs are run. The game needs people like this in our game as most running the game and clubs are clueless or happy to just drift along until they are forced to make changes often at the last minute.