Widnes average this season is around 3,700 but this is mainly due to us playing Friday/Saturday which hasnt worked. A return to Sunday next year should see us put another 300 or so on the gates.

So despite winning a cup and quite possibly completing the double you average 1700 more fans than us?

Because if we don't then we're not going to be given a franchise unless they decide to increase the number of teams (which they won't because teams won't want to share their slice of the money pie). Unless we have a large following at this level, how do we show the RFL that we'd be a better option than say Salford or Wakefield?

Did you not read my post, if we would have played on a Sunday you bump that average up around the 4,000 mark. Crowds are not everything though and i think most would agree Leigh have major problems at chief exec and Marketing levels.

How did anyone else get a license who get less than a 5K average?

They come from outside England.


Simples.

I'm talking about 4-5000 as a aim for after 2012. To get in for 2012 we would have to be finger licking good compared to rest we are against. Which is why I say 5000 and winning everything by the time its decision time for 2012. We have no chance for 2012 even had we stayed up. We can't run a club at this level never mind being in the limelight of a bigger stage.

Time will tell, we are 24 games from winning the double and starting the 2011 season in Champ 1

Forget the 2008 round of licenses. It's now twice as hard for non-expansion clubs. They now have to set themselves apart from clubs already in Super League. ie, "We are a better prospect than Salford because our average attendance is higher by 2,000" - that sort of thing.

After a few pints you forget what these leagues are called!!!

They were already in there and the RFL didn't have the cojones to kick them out. For Salford they played the 'Conurbation' card. For Celtic they played the location card.

What do Leigh have in the 'Conurbation'/Location stakes? We're surrounded by Warrington, Wigan, St Helens and Salford location-wise and Leigh as a 'conurbation' has a population of around 60,000.

Unless Leigh start churning out GB Internationals by the bucketload, or the people of Leigh start backing this club in the region of 4-5,000 per home game at this level then we can forget Super League.

Would only be a good thing if this was used to clear out the large quantities of dead wood at the club, unfortunatly this will not happen and although there may be plenty of wins next season, crowds will fall as prices wont.

No it won't affect our 2012 ambitions.

Yes it is a disaster.

Are you underestimating the likes of oldham, swinton etc just like rowley and co have done with batley, gateshead and barrow.

Walk the league? Found our level more like. And do you think millward really wants to endure the embarrassment of the press following him to skolars and blackpool?