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Well surprisingly there is. My sisters daughter is married to a Pie.

We don't speak to her. icon_lol.gif icon_wink.gif

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Can I just say this and I don't give two hooks what a single one of you thinks. Recently a thread was erased for being harmful to the club. Well I'm sorry but what I am reading could escalate into a very much larger problem than a song sheet. So why is this carrying on? john has gone so lets get on with it.

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When this BOM first set up, I was worried about how many of them there were - in that it could lead to major differences of opinion, especially as some people may be stronger characters, or will have bigger egos, than others. (not getting at anybody - we ALL have egos, including yours truly)

However, having a number of people with differing opinions can, and surely must, be the strength of the BOM - providing that they can all thrash out their differences inside the Board Room, and then move on with the united purpose of the future of our club.

I would respectfully remind them of the common aim they surely share, and ask them to resolve any differences amicably, bury their egos, and then move on in the direction they have already taken huge strides towards. The club is, and always will be, bigger than any individual.

For the record, a previous poster mentioned my resignation as programme editor. Whilst I may have issues with a couple of members of the BOM, I will repeat that they had NOTHING to do with my resignation - and MY personal ego has got over that, now. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: TV BOY "Can I just say this and I don't give two hooks what a single one of you thinks. Recently a thread was erased for being harmful to the club. Well I'm sorry but what I am reading could escalate into a very much larger problem than a song sheet. So why is this carrying on? john has gone so lets get on with it.[


Who's posts are harmful to the club though ?

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Read them all Lynda. I didn't say they "are harmful to the club", I said they could become more harmful to the club than the comments about a song sheet that was erased. But I would say that the one about RP unless correct or even if it is correct is harmful.

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Quote: TV BOY "Read them all Lynda. I didn't say they "are harmful to the club", I said they could become more harmful to the club than the comments about a song sheet that was erased. But I would say that the one about RP unless correct or even if it is correct is harmful.'"



That is why when I spoke to Rob about something unrelated I took the opportunity to ask him if it was true , it is not, also another poster also stated said it was not true

Don't worry anyt posts that are not acceptable will be removed if necessary . Thats a promise.

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John roddy has gone the club has told us why move on nothing more to say...

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Quote: old tony "John roddy has gone the club has told us why move on nothing more to say...'"

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Good luck John and thanks for everything

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Quote: old tony "John roddy has gone the club has told us why move on nothing more to say...'"


Exactly Tony.

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What you tend to see is a cycle of a group of local businessmen gain control of a club ,then eventually one by one they leave either because they cannot manage the level of investement asked of them, or quite simply they get fed up of being outvoted on how the club should be run
So you then see one director gain control quite simply because he can afford it, then something will happen resulting in another group of businessmen coming in again , this has happened 3 times at Leigh in the last 20 years

If a seriously rich investor came through the door at Leigh, I would be very surprised if he was refused the opportunity to gain sole control

It isnt about the structure of the administration at any club, its about what they do, putting cash in is great, depending on what the money is spent on decides where you go from there on, just paying good wages to good players will work short term, but isnt sustainable, running a sports business is a lot more complicated than that

The above is a post I made on the Fax board last week in reponse to a claim that a member of the Leigh BOM had stated that the club would never again be under single person control, IMO the only way that could happen is for a new club/holding company to be set up with a constitution to that effect, essentially a supporters trust

If you dont have that, then what I posted above is enevitable, any consortium will always have a life span, by their very nature the type of people that will be in a position to join a clubs board will be used to getting their own way, once you join a group that will change for some

Sporting club administrations will consist of 2 types of person, those that are just happy to be involved with the board room culture and enjoy the inside knowledge and any reflective glory without really offering any drive, then there are those that are the ' drivers' with idea's on how they believe the club should move forward

You can have as many of the former as you can fit round the table ( providing they pay for it ) , the latter however is different and eventually those whose idea's and opinions are not taken up will usually leave

As I said the only other option is a supporters trust type administration, which just doesnt work

I'll not comment further on this, there are some who have posted on this who really need to ask themselves some serious questions about why they are doing what they are doing, because they are not fooling anybody

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Quote: Starbug "What you tend to see is a cycle of a group of local businessmen gain control of a club ,then eventually one by one they leave either because they cannot manage the level of investement asked of them, or quite simply they get fed up of being outvoted on how the club should be run
So you then see one director gain control quite simply because he can afford it, then something will happen resulting in another group of businessmen coming in again , this has happened 3 times at Leigh in the last 20 years

If a seriously rich investor came through the door at Leigh, I would be very surprised if he was refused the opportunity to gain sole control

It isnt about the structure of the administration at any club, its about what they do, putting cash in is great, depending on what the money is spent on decides where you go from there on, just paying good wages to good players will work short term, but isnt sustainable, running a sports business is a lot more complicated than that

The above is a post I made on the Fax board last week in reponse to a claim that a member of the Leigh BOM had stated that the club would never again be under single person control, IMO the only way that could happen is for a new club/holding company to be set up with a constitution to that effect, essentially a supporters trust

If you dont have that, then what I posted above is enevitable, any consortium will always have a life span, by their very nature the type of people that will be in a position to join a clubs board will be used to getting their own way, once you join a group that will change for some

Sporting club administrations will consist of 2 types of person, those that are just happy to be involved with the board room culture and enjoy the inside knowledge and any reflective glory without really offering any drive, then there are those that are the ' drivers' with idea's on how they believe the club should move forward

You can have as many of the former as you can fit round the table ( providing they pay for it ) , the latter however is different and eventually those whose idea's and opinions are not taken up will usually leave

As I said the only other option is a supporters trust type administration, which just doesnt work

I'll not comment further on this, there are some who have posted on this who really need to ask themselves some serious questions about why they are doing what they are doing, because they are not fooling anybody'"


So what your saying in a round about way is that there is always going to be a shelf life for the BOM and that it is inevitable one person will seize control via the majority shares?

What happened to your shares Steve by the way?

Can't speak for anyone else but my motives have been documented on hear from day one since I started posting and before I joined the board but to clarify are to make sure as a club we are open, honest and transparent with our fans and to help safeguard the clubs long term future while making it the very best it can be!!!

I don't want to own the club and have no desires to run it on my own and I don't believe it would be right for any one person to do so, to prove this I would be happy to donate my shares to the fans and or LISA at some point in the none to distant future.

This policy has been a driving factor in reneging the public of leigh and getting the project moving but we have not yet achieved anything or won anything yet.

I strongly believe in this club, town and it's supporters and as such I don't intend to give in, but to work hard to keep everyone singing from the same hymn sheet.

The ousting the old, and bringing in the new idea was mine and in mine and many people's opinions has been what has got us so far, in such a short space of time. By publicly speaking and being transparent it forces people less likely to do so to do the right thing. The journey is just beginning and must carry on.

The strength of our club lies absolutely in the strength, unity and vision of it's fans so I'd urge everyone to stay behind the team and the club, nothing to worry about and United we will succeed.

Thanks

Andy Mazey

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Well said Andy ..

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Hearing that puts my mind at ease for now thanks Andy keep up the good work eusa_clap.gif

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This appears to be a bit of a storm in a tea cup and I'm not sure why people are so worried about any alleged board room disagreement. I personally would be worried if the directors of any company all agreed on everything and every decision went through unanimously. Dissenting voices are extremely important.

Perhaps a fans forum needs to be held though to answer any queries or concerns people may have in order to keep the ball rolling. Whilst the directors are doing a brilliant job, it was always going to take a while for people to really buy into it after false promises etc of the past.

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