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Quote: soldiers field "those big crowds leigh had were not representative of the whole season and i think our average was about 2700 but i stand to be corrected.

super league crowds have averaged more than £10,000 for the previous 2 seasons(no figure for this year).
you would have to go a long way back to match that figure.

people keep talking about crowds in the 80,s but leigh did not average 7000 in our championship year.
for a minority sport with limited press coverage the super league crowds are brilliant.

stop being jealous because we have messed up and decrying our game'"


Super League, Super League, Super League.

It's all that matters..... icon_rolleyes.gif

Call it jealousy if you want, I care not, I'd prefer to see it as the RFL not giving a shiny s**t about much outside of Super League and not much they are doing is proving me wrong either.

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Quote: j.c "the rules are set out before the season starts so we did finish in a relegation spot.but like you say if we do get a get out of jail card i hope we're ready for it'"
Yes but those rules were forced upon the clubs and dont think that was fair as PR said they had no say in the matter so as for saying we knew the rules it does not make it right ,like i have said before the RFL seem to make the rules to suit what they want and not the paying public,i know there have to be rules in place but fair ones and not the type that take the P.If we do get to use our get out of jail card i'm sure the club will be ready ,you only need to look at our signings for that plus i'm sure the club have done a lot behind the scenes to make possible should we be in a position to apply for SL we will be ready .Anyroad if we stay where we are i'm not too fussed either icon_smile.gif

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Quote: itsatry! "Yes but those rules were forced upon the clubs and dont think that was fair as PR said they had no say in the matter'"

There was a vote amongst the clubs, and only Dewsbury objected to Toulouse's inclusion. Whether there were strings attached to said vote is another matter, but we had 19 games to make sure we finished high enough up the table to avoid the drop. We didn't do it, so let's just leave it in the past and look forward to next season, shall we?

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Quote: Tipster Ste "You raise some good points but how many teams average over 10K? When you have worked that out tell me how many average over 10K paying customers?'"

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Something else that comes into the mix when talking about crowds
you have to offset what the club brings in week in week out with what the club pays out re wages, vat, tax, training, travel ect ect ect after that
i think you will find that not many SL clubs apart from Leeds and maybe one more are not making SL Rugby a profitable business if SKY pulled out which is always a possabilty then SL would be up sh-te creek in a big way
Pro RL has become in my opinion a game which revolves only for teams in the top flight and the game is run by complete idiots who cant see past SL and Sky tv it was proved last year when to everyones surprise they let in Celtic Cru and Lewis & Co backed their decision by a pack of false rantings that was a laughable if not so sad for the game..
Yes in the opinion of many long term RL fans the game has gone downhill big time and we are so far behind the Aussies its frightening..

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In terms of finance and crowds, for every Leeds or Wigan you need 4 Salfords or Harlequins. Not exactly a balanced approach in a closed shop is it?

The jump between Wakefield and Leeds is far greater than it is from Widnes to Salford or Harlequins such is their latent potential.

It's this imbalance that the RFL appear to ignore when shunning the Championship clubs into a box marked 'Clubs of little importance to us', whilst at the same time tens of millions of pounds still hasn't created a self funded stand alone world class rugby league venue let alone a stand off or centre that could trouble the Aussies.

To the outside world watching on Sky, things might appear rosy (until the Aussies embarass us again). To those following the big clubs, many care little about the rest of the game and pour scorn on those who question the state of the game as a whole.

Maybe the RFL will prove me wrong in the next round of franchises, but I shan't be holding my breath.

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please take this topic off or at least change the title the grasping of straws is over time to win the championship one!

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Quote: Leyther_Matt "There was a vote amongst the clubs, and only Dewsbury objected to Toulouse's inclusion. Whether there were strings attached to said vote is another matter, but we had 19 games to make sure we finished high enough up the table to avoid the drop. We didn't do it, so let's just leave it in the past and look forward to next season, shall we?'"
PR said they had no choice in the matter ,and if you want to move on then dont reply to my message simples icon_lol.gif

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: itsatry! "PR said they had no choice in the matter ,and if you want to move on then dont reply to my message simples
It's called democracy , if we were upset with the decision we could have declined to play to them icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Starbug "It's called democracy , if we were upset with the decision we could have declined to play to them icon_wink.gif

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Quote: itsatry! "In other words we had no choice or Hobsons
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Quote: itsatry! "In other words we had no choice or Hobsons

Get's blamed for everything that guy does

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Like it or not it is Democracy as opposed to Dictatorship.In the former you sometimes don,t like the result but you do get the chance to change it next time around. In the latter you don,t.

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Are you sure they will have the right to dissagree with the almighty,i hope they do because at this rate there will be a league of teams devoid of any Lancashire clubs if thr Rfl have their way icon_lol.gif

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Correction...2 Leagues icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Alexs Dad "In terms of finance and crowds, for every Leeds or Wigan you need 4 Salfords or Harlequins. Not exactly a balanced approach in a closed shop is it?

The jump between Wakefield and Leeds is far greater than it is from Widnes to Salford or Harlequins such is their latent potential.

It's this imbalance that the RFL appear to ignore when shunning the Championship clubs into a box marked 'Clubs of little importance to us', whilst at the same time tens of millions of pounds still hasn't created a self funded stand alone world class rugby league venue let alone a stand off or centre that could trouble the Aussies.

To the outside world watching on Sky, things might appear rosy (until the Aussies embarass us again). To those following the big clubs, many care little about the rest of the game and pour scorn on those who question the state of the game as a whole.

Maybe the RFL will prove me wrong in the next round of franchises, but I shan't be holding my breath.'"

Excellent post....totally vindicated by the England performance last saturday.Fifteen years of SKY money and we `re light years behind the Antipodeans.......... icon_surprised.gifops: icon_surprised.gifops:

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