It took the unprecedented move of introducing P&R into domestic cricket to finally win an Ashes series, now have they hit on something I wonder.

Austrilia wont have many better than Tomkins a doubted him at 1st but he showed skill and maturity the other day. Austrilia produce good young centres and wingers (Inglis,Foloua) you name me 1 thats better scrum half than tomkins and if the aussie youngsters are that good why have West Tigers bout Flanagan from wigan who wasnt even in the top 5 young players?? Stupid loser attitude is what gets us nowhere

You and your attitude are not wanted in sport!!!

We have a game that we are good at and have a product that only the Aussies can rival unlike any other sport!!!!!!

Lets look at in real terms and attempt to be the best it wont do anyone any harm!!!!

We will beat NZ next week at at the very least run Aus close in the final TS is the best RL coach in RL and will show why next week!!!!!!!!

Well said!!

The Aussies alaways struggled to produce Halves like ours likes of Murphy and Millward always ran the legs off forward orintated sides!!!!!

Lets get back to what we are good at and let these ellusive kids run the convicts ragged!!!!!!!!

TBH i thought their half back was out standing and we don’t have anyone in that grade. We just don’t produce that kind of dominant half back in this country.

Agreed. To say that there aren't many as good as Tomkins is just ignorant. There wasn't an English player on the pitch that outplayed Lockyer or Thurston in the 1st half. Aussie half-backs are streets ahead of ours just through their kicking and passing ability.

If Tomkins achieves just a fraction of what Lockyer has managed in his career, then he'll have done well.

The Aussies are good BUT they are damn well cocky with it and i think in the second half we knocked that cockiness out of them ,plus i was sick of the commentators going on and on about how fantastic they are and that they were showing us a master class in rugby, for goodness sake they dont need anyone else telling them they are good they are very good at telling themselves TUT!

Thought Tomkins was brilliant, would like to see him partnered with Eastmomd at half back. Think the Ausies wiould find it difficult to find a pairing who could cope with those 2.

They coped very well with them , how many times did they get tackled ?

Compare that to how many times we laid a hand on Lockyer and Thurston ?

you read me point proper i said that they dotn have any young halfbacks Lockyear is 33 and tbh having looked at the young 6s coming through there isnt many. Inglis is a better centre dont get me wrong Austrilia are good but they win cause at 6 year old were we are playing for fun they are having it drilled into them to win thats why as a team we will never get near them but individually we arent as far behind as people think

Are you sure , fairly certain the aussies dont even tackle in matches till much older than that , they concentrate on skills rather than winning , plus they dont try to make ' super teams ' like so many do here

Well although I maybe labouring the point the main difference between the two sides is the speed of passing.

Fitness is the same for all sides at this level. At the moment Australia have faster outside backs. We have Australian coaching methods.

We can compete but at this time we need the bounce of the ball to beat them.

We will soon.

Think thats because Lockyer went hiding ,the poor fella was knackered from trying to catch Tomkins

These two will cause problems for any side. The amount of experience gained from this competition will serve these lads well!
The Aussie's were knackered in the last quarter of the game and, if we can dish some rough treatment out to Inglis and co, we could see a much more competitive game, next time!