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| Quote: Alexs Dad "Can anyone tell me who we have signed in the last 20 years who has made a significant impact on our attendances?
Each top player on say 40k a year needs 400 additional folk through the gates.
Would we get another 1200 on if we had them?
No chance. We were the best team outside SL for 5 years and still only got 2500.'"
luke isaacs??
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| Quote: FredParky "But as we are up to the max on the salary cap as it is we can't sign anyone.'" We definitely have some over payed players at the club then, i cant get my head round how teams like Barrow get some much quality in under the cap if we are at max with our young squad.
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| Do players under 21 count on the salary cap?
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| The club can,t quite be up to the salary cap if we can offer a contract to an Australian stand off and also offer to take players on loan.
I realise however there can,t be much in the kitty.
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| Quote: DemonUK "Do players under 21 count on the salary cap?'"
I am not sure about that , but that is another area where the NL1s representatives at the RFLs junket days should start to do some tough talking at their meetings at the posh away days instead of just being noding dogs
I would get together with all the other clubs below Super League and insist that if your club brings a young player through your Service Area or Acadamy and he breaks into the first team he should be exempt from the salary cap. That way it encourages clubs to spend money on youth development and you can afford to pay these lads instead of some SL side taking them straight off you.You could always have an age limit like 21/22 so you get a return on your investment.If you are doing it right as well which it apears Leigh does you should also have plenty of money over to buy a few experianced big names to help pull them along.
I would love to go to these junket meetings to see what happens each club has a rep and NL1 and below outnumber the Soooper Dooper reps but we always get shortchanged for some reason.
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| Quote: johnny freeman fan club "I am not sure about that , but that is another area where the NL1s representatives at the RFLs junket days should start to do some tough talking at their meetings at the posh away days instead of just being noding dogs
I would get together with all the other clubs below Super League and insist that if your club brings a young player through your Service Area or Acadamy and he breaks into the first team he should be exempt from the salary cap. That way it encourages clubs to spend money on youth development and you can afford to pay these lads instead of some SL side taking them straight off you.You could always have an age limit like 21/22 so you get a return on your investment.If you are doing it right as well which it apears Leigh does you should also have plenty of money over to buy a few experianced big names to help pull them along.
I would love to go to these junket meetings to see what happens each club has a rep and NL1 and below outnumber the Soooper Dooper reps but we always get shortchanged for some reason.'"
Extract from RL Operational Rules on NL Salary CapCosts for those players under 21 who are eligible to play in the academy teams are to be excluded from the Salary Cap Costs. For the avoidance of doubt this means players need to be under 21 years of age on August 31st 2008. However there is no credit granted against Salary Cap cost for U21 players loaned out to other clubs see 6.4.2
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| I thought crowds would have increased significantly when Martyn signed. It was talked about for a few years that he may sign, and for us a dream signing when it finally happened. Crowds did not show that in 2004 - crowds very poor for league games and considering we was doing well.
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| Quote: Alan "Extract from RL Operational Rules on NL Salary CapCosts for those players under 21 who are eligible to play in the academy teams are to be excluded from the Salary Cap Costs. For the avoidance of doubt this means players need to be under 21 years of age on August 31st 2008. However there is no credit granted against Salary Cap cost for U21 players loaned out to other clubs see 6.4.2
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Thanks for the clarification , so how about if you have invested in a young player through his playing carreer and he gets into the first team he becomes exempt from the salary cap regardless of age. Of course if he chooses to move on, the team who takes him will have to adhere to the cap. You are then rewarded for investing in youth and you can then afford to pay a few players to come in and play for you?
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| Quote: FredParky "That analogy is one of the worst things you have put up on here, from the crassness of that remark I gather none of your family have ever been the subject of a sexual attack, I have had a family member subject of rape and to compare it with a sports club is totally out of order especially trying to gain political capital out of it.
I for one hope none of yours have to go through the trauma ssociated with that particular nasty crime.'"
Jesus stop being so pc do you honestly think that he meant to upset everyone who has been sexually attacked when he made that comment!!!
Raped in the dictionary means other terminology as well ..... c`mon Fred every person on here could misread and interpret comments as differant..the subject is about Leigh RL nothing else
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| Quote: Leeeigh Leeeigh "I thought crowds would have increased significantly when Martyn signed. It was talked about for a few years that he may sign, and for us a dream signing when it finally happened. Crowds did not show that in 2004 - crowds very poor for league games and considering we was doing well.'"
Back in 2003 I told one of my employees that we would be signing Tommy , He had not watched Leigh for years , " you sign T. Martyn and I'll come watching them " was his reply
We did , he didn't
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| Quote: Starbug "Back in 2003 I told one of my employees that we would be signing Tommy , He had not watched Leigh for years , " you sign T. Martyn and I'll come watching them " was his reply
We did , he didn't
There you go, a genuine modern time RL/SL legend coming home and he was proud to wear the Leigh shirt to.
You can't get any bigger signing than that and the proof is there in the stats - successful team with Tommy God and crowds actually went down in league games. Unyet we should learn from history by doing it again - overspending on what we can afford in the desparate hope crowds will increase significantly.
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| Quote: mr. chairman "johnny can you tell me how much you invest in a young player that as come through the ranks'"
Me personally? I have done a fair bit over a few years I was the main sponsor for both acadamy teams that we were runing at the time I have also sponsored individuals eg Penky when he came through our youth system .If your refering to our club we have brought plenty through and at the moment we have Penky and Haley who have come through our acadamy system.But that was not the point I was making.
My comments were not directed at any clubs they were directed at the R.F.L. who should be rewarding clubs like yours who have and continue to provide good players to the rugby community .iYour club should be then rewarded by players you have brought through not counting on the salary cap when they play for you.
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| Quote: johnny freeman fan club "Me personally? I have done a fair bit over a few years I was the main sponsor for both acadamy teams that we were runing at the time I have also sponsored individuals eg Penky when he came through our youth system .If your refering to our club we have brought plenty through and at the moment we have Penky and Haley who have come through our acadamy system.But that was not the point I was making.
My comments were not directed at any clubs they were directed at the R.F.L. who should be rewarding clubs like yours who have and continue to provide good players to the rugby community .iYour club should be then rewarded by players you have brought through not counting on the salary cap when they play for you.'"
You're getting us confused with somebody else
Leigh dont have a youth policy , Mr Lewis said so on live TV
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| Quote: frankb "The club can,t quite be up to the salary cap if we can offer a contract to an Australian stand off and also offer to take players on loan.
I realise however there can,t be much in the kitty.'"
Errr Frank I did write this AFTER the contract offer to the Aussie, like I said if anyone doesn't believe me then ask, I did.
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| I have recieved a communication from a very good source (not connected to Leigh Centurions in any way) who has contacted me after reading the crap posted on this board about Loan players agents and Leigh Centurions.
He tells me he has contacted three of the most active agents in the area and none of them have any problem at all in working with Leigh Centurions, I don't know who is feeding folk all this tripe but its obviously someone with either a big grudge or a big chip on their shoulder, for its all lies and repeating it with out the required proof can be both dangerous and damaging to both club and agents, so my advice -get your facts right and dont post such drivel, like I said I believe my source to the letter for he has nothing at all to gain or lose by telling me what he did, but I suppose again the truth isnt exciting as rumour and lies
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