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Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "It was the Canadians, I am fairly certain about that.'"


Course it was Harold

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Quote: atomic "The generated income from the SL season, going where?'"


You spend you income in the season you earn it , you make an assessment of what you think you will earn and set your budget accordingly , if you fall short , then somebody ( owner directors ) has to make up the difference , which is why we find ourselves where we currently are , as I said , non of my business but if we did keep this years squad then I reckon Derek would be looking at chucking in a million + next season

So the question is despite him rubber stamping the contracts would I want him risking his business to subsidise MY match ticket ?

NO

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But it looks like Degsey doesn't want to.'"


Maybe he doesn't want to , maybe he isn't in a position to , either way it's his call , personally I'm happy for him to do what's best for himself

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My take with Derek is He let the whole Paul Rowley / Toronto saga consume him IMO.

It was because of it, and a burning desire from Derek for Jukes to succeed and prove to be a far better coach than Rowley, and show Derek's decison to appoint Neil as his successor as the right one , that he was allowed to continue as head coach way beyond the point where is time was clearly up.

When a coach loses his dressing room, there is inevitably only ever one outcome.

Unfortunately, Derek going against the tried and tested methodology saw it differently and instead of the coach being shown the door, the players were. It proved to be the recipe for complete disaster.

Every other contributory factor is just secondary. IMHO of course.

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Quote: GUBRATS "Fairly sure it was reported as such , it was only decided upon and voted on the meeting the week prior to the MPG as an insurance policy against Catalans dropping down and losing their income from their TV deal'"


Pretty sure DB made a comment stating the parachute payment decision by SL, concerning any relegated SL club was made mid season.

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Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "My take with Derek is He let the whole Paul Rowley / Toronto saga consume him IMO.

It was because of it, and a burning desire from Derek for Jukes to succeed and prove to be a far better coach than Rowley, and show Derek's decison to appoint Neil as his successor as the right one , that he was allowed to continue as head coach way beyond the point where is time was clearly up.

When a coach loses his dressing room, there is inevitably only ever one outcome.

Unfortunately, Derek going against the tried and tested methodology saw it differently and instead of the coach being shown the door, the players were. It proved to be the recipe for complete disaster.

Every other contributory factor is just secondary. IMHO of course.'"


Totally agree there Harold.

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Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "My take with Derek is He let the whole Paul Rowley / Toronto saga consume him IMO.

It was because of it, and a burning desire from Derek for Jukes to succeed and prove to be a far better coach than Rowley, and show Derek's decison to appoint Neil as his successor as the right one , that he was allowed to continue as head coach way beyond the point where is time was clearly up.

When a coach loses his dressing room, there is inevitably only ever one outcome.

Unfortunately, Derek going against the tried and tested methodology saw it differently and instead of the coach being shown the door, the players were. It proved to be the recipe for complete disaster.

Every other contributory factor is just secondary. IMHO of course.'"


Quite possibly an accurate assessment Harold , for me I believe coaches are changed too often , I cite Sean Daish at Burnley , they stood by him when they were relegated and were rewarded with a second promotion and a 7 th finish

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Quote: atomic "Pretty sure DB made a comment stating the parachute payment decision by SL, concerning any relegated SL club was made mid season.'"


You might well be correct , although haven't heard any mention of it being repeated this year , it does seem plausible that the Catalans would have lost considerable income had they dropped to the Championship

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Quote: GUBRATS "Fairly sure it was reported as such , it was only decided upon and voted on the meeting the week prior to the MPG as an insurance policy against Catalans dropping down and losing their income from their TV deal'"


I am not sure about that.

I seem to recall from Derek, it was voted for at the beginning of the season by SL clubs. Derek voted in favour for it, never believing for one moment we would benefit from it.

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As this is a match performance thread , a very good performance by the players on Sunday ' the week off will do us good , hopefully seeing a few bruises being eased for our visit to Fev

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Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "My take with Derek is He let the whole Paul Rowley / Toronto saga consume him IMO.

It was because of it, and a burning desire from Derek for Jukes to succeed and prove to be a far better coach than Rowley, and show Derek's decison to appoint Neil as his successor as the right one , that he was allowed to continue as head coach way beyond the point where is time was clearly up.

When a coach loses his dressing room, there is inevitably only ever one outcome.

Unfortunately, Derek going against the tried and tested methodology saw it differently and instead of the coach being shown the door, the players were. It proved to be the recipe for complete disaster.

Every other contributory factor is just secondary. IMHO of course.'"


Charlie could have picked a team from the squad we had v Barrow.. H

Jamie Acton (25)
Ben Crooks (24)
Rhys Evans (24)
Greg Richards (22)
Ben Reynolds (23)
Jordan Thompson (26)
Peter Mata'utia (26)
Matty Dawson (27)
Larne Patrick (2icon_cool.gif
Kevin Larroyer (2icon_cool.gif
Daniel Mortimer (2icon_cool.gif
Ilias Bergal (21)
Jordan Dezaria (20)
Jack Owens (23)
Jack Blagbrough (23)
Nick Gregson (21)
Ricky Bailey (20) loan
Jonah Cunningham (19) loan
Bodene Thompson (29)
Nathan Mason (22) loan
Paterika Vaivai (25)
Drew Hutchison (22)
Liam Hood (25)
Craig Hall (29)
Kyle Lovett (24)
Harrison Hansen (32)
Kurt Baptiste (26)

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Quote: Cokey "Totally agree there Harold.'"

I agree as well ,I think we have all heard stories and rumours about Paul departure,and what happened,it would be great if the truth came out ,one day but I can't see it,I think it was a case of whether one calls or raises the antenna, and got into a personal vendetta.
Myself I've always liked Paul,I'd even have him back , but I can't see it happening, I'd love to see Ryan B return, and maybe Adam Higson,could KP be the Coach to lead us into a new era ?I really hope so, I once told Darren Abram when he was long gone and forgotten, I would still be a Leigh fan, the same goes for Derek, if he goes or stays, I will stay.Charlie knows. icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: charlie caroli "I agree as well ,I think we have all heard stories and rumours about Paul departure,and what happened,it would be great if the truth came out ,one day but I can't see it,I think it was a case of whether one calls or raises the antenna, and got into a personal vendetta.
Myself I've always liked Paul,I'd even have him back , but I can't see it happening, I'd love to see Ryan B return, and maybe Adam Higson,could KP be the Coach to lead us into a new era ?I really hope so, I once told Darren Abram when he was long gone and forgotten, I would still be a Leigh fan, the same goes for Derek, if he goes or stays, I will stay.Charlie knows.
I'll reserve judgement on that, until his coaching career is proven at the level he shys away from.

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Quote: atomic "Charlie could have picked a team from the squad we had v Barrow.. H

Jamie Acton (25)
Ben Crooks (24)
Rhys Evans (24)
Greg Richards (22)
Ben Reynolds (23)
Jordan Thompson (26)
Peter Mata'utia (26)
Matty Dawson (27)
Larne Patrick (2icon_cool.gif
Kevin Larroyer (2icon_cool.gif
Daniel Mortimer (2icon_cool.gif
Ilias Bergal (21)
Jordan Dezaria (20)
Jack Owens (23)
Jack Blagbrough (23)
Nick Gregson (21)
Ricky Bailey (20) loan
Jonah Cunningham (19) loan
Bodene Thompson (29)
Nathan Mason (22) loan
Paterika Vaivai (25)
Drew Hutchison (22)
Liam Hood (25)
Craig Hall (29)
Kyle Lovett (24)
Harrison Hansen (32)K
Kurt Baptiste (26)'"

Atomic, I don't know what the 17 were for the Barrow game, but mine would have been.

1.Craig Hall.
2.Rhys Evans.
3.Ben Crooks.
4.Peter Matutia.
5.Matty Dawson.
6.Ben Reynods.
7.Drew Hutchinson.
8.Patrick Vai Vai.
9.Liam Hood.
10.Bodene Thompson.
11.Jordan Thompson.
12.Kevin Larroyer.
13.Harrison Hanson.

14.Dan Mortimer.
15.Jack Bagborough.
16.Nathan Mason.
17.Jordan Dezaria.

That's presuming everyone was fit, the ground was very heavy that afternoon, but how could we lose a 10 point lead?

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