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Quote: JENKY "Wasn't at last nights meeting so I'm presuming the talk was of employing a unqualified coach.
If you have ambitions to be a coach then you will have got the badges required.
If we are appointing coaches without the required credentials then we are going down the wrong track IMO, Unless thats what all successful clubs do.'"


paul cullen has coaching badges, doesnt mean hes a good coach icon_wink.gif

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Quote: ste_ody "paul cullen has coaching badges, doesnt mean hes a good coach
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Would you rather fly on a plane thats been maintained by a qualified mechanic who has done all the studying on how to repair things, looked at problem solving and is confident in what he does because he knows he had to work hard to get his Mechanic certificate and its recognised worldwide.

Or would you rather fly on a plane thats maintained by a ex captain who is now a mechanic after retireing, no qualifications as didn't have the time to do the course, but says he knows the aircraft inside out as he flew them for years icon_wink.gif

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I find it hard to believe that Blackmoor has no coaching qualifications as he was voted Coach of the year in NZ in 2010 and coached the Auckland Vulcans to the Grand Final of the NSW cup (one of the leagues below (and a feeder league to) the NRL).

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Quote: never a dull moment "vendetta seems a bit strong tipster.he wasnt a success as coach.
he worked with Basil who is said to have had an input into the next choice so, presumably, he didnt reccommend him.
he apparently has a 2,3 or 4 year contract, dependant on which post you read on here, at a time we are making people redundant ,or short paying them.
we are told some applicants for the job withdrew when they heard what money was on offer.does that mean we are over committed on the money we are paying the existing coaching staff, cant afford to pay them off and that has cost us the coach we really wanted.
This is nothing personal against anyone its just another one of those debatable areas within the club that leads to rumour, frustration and debate.
not having a manager/coach in place now is not ideal lets hope the applications to ukba are in order and we move on'"


He's never been coach he was caretaker after a disastrous reign under Kelly. Incidentally last coach Basil picked was Darren Shaw

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Quote: topleyther "I find it hard to believe that Blackmoor has no coaching qualifications as he was voted Coach of the year in NZ in 2010 and coached the Auckland Vulcans to the Grand Final of the NSW cup (one of the leagues below (and a feeder league to) the NRL).'"



It would seem that the English RFL requires more advanced coaching 'badges' than Australia and New Zealand. Hence our domination of those two nations, at international level, this past 20 years! icon_wink.gif

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



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Would YOU rather fly in a plane piloted by a mechanic who knows how it works , or a pilot who's been flying planes for years ?

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Quote: ste_ody "paul cullen has coaching badges, doesnt mean hes a good coach
why, was he a bad coach (apart from 'talking weird' in post match interviews) Think Whitehaven fans would disagree.

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



Definately had his best years at haven.

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Quote: Starbug "Would YOU rather fly in a plane piloted by a mechanic who knows how it works , or a pilot who's been flying planes for years ?'"


I'd take the mechanic everyday.
A retired pilot or a rookie may think he's good, might have been good even, but the reality is he might not be as good as he thinks he is nowadays as things change by the hour let alone by the day , its easy to get out of touch.
The mechanic will be working to structures , have a pilots licence and know about the overall picture and the ins and out of the Aircraft not just how to fly / taxi it so if he thinks he has no idea he has a reference or a group of people to bounce ideas off.

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Quote: JENKY "I'd take the mechanic everyday.
A retired pilot may think he's good, might have been good even, but the reality is he might not be as good as he thinks he is nowadays as things change by the hour let alone by the day , its easy to get out of touch.
The mechanic will be working to structures , have a pilots licence and know about the overall picture and the ins and out of the Aircraft not just how to fly / taxi it so if he thinks he has no idea he has a reference or a group of people to bounce ideas off.'"


Nobody said he had a pilots licence , he's a mechanic icon_wink.gif

And who mentioned a ' retired ' pilot icon_biggrin.gif

I'd not want the pilot fixing the plane , but I'd damn sure not want to mechanic flying it icon_lol.gif

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



From coaching 17 men to flying a plane,what a smashing thread drift.

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Quote: j.c "From coaching 17 men to flying a plane,what a smashing thread drift.'"


Jenky started it icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Starbug "Jenky started it
Will it be boats or trains next.?.

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Second home the gym:



Quote: Starbug "Jenky started it Well play nice now. icon_lol.gif

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I remember Murph saying that once he got summoned to do a coaching badge....about the late 80's. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

Of course he did it and said the only thing it taught him after sitting though a couple of sessions (being taught by someone who'd never actually coached a real team) was that it made him realise why there were no decent coaches any more.

He always said you can't teach someone how to coach, you can only teach them the rules, and no matter how many badges or levels you have if you haven't got 'it' then you're just wasting your time. His hero was (and still is) Jim Sullivan and said he learned more about coaching from him than he could have learned in a thousand years in a classroom.

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