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[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]TBF he's a good lad Snowy. A wind up merchant but a good lad. :lol:[/quote] [quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]That sig snowy is Ssooooooooooo old !!![/quote] OOpps - nowt changes !! [b]Widnes 8 Leigh 10 LOL!!! Leigh 23 Widnes 16 LOL!! Leigh 30 Widnes 16 LOL!! Widnes 18 Leigh 38 Oh Dear !! Leigh 54 Widnes 16 FFS!!! Leigh 50 Widnes 18 We gave them 3 tries !!! Widnes 18 Leigh 24 Still no points in the 2nd half!! Good luck Widnes. See you in 2015 !![/b]:8043.jpg



Quote: GUBRATS "Yes , but 11 isn't a majority'"


It still equates to an approx share of some 9m quid does it not ?

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Quote: Snowy "It still equates to an approx share of some 9m quid does it not ?'"


Is that the profit ?

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Onwards and upwards - LTID:



Quote: GUBRATS "Is that the profit ?'"


Think that relates to the value of the LSV, would Leigh really get £9m if someone bought it - hadn't even considered that aspect

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Quote: ColD "Think that relates to the value of the LSV, would Leigh really get £9m if someone bought it - hadn't even considered that aspect'"


No idea , hadn't even considered it

What would it buy us ?

But that wasn't your initial thought , you thought it was 11% of the turnover , not the profit , if it was the turnover we wouldn't be in the position we are currently in , nd there would be investors queuing up at the door

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Grundy hill estates were the owners of Hilton park and give the rugby club a 99 year lease, all monies collected on match days went to the rugby club that was in 1997,I know they ran the football club{and that went bust},but the sale of Hilton park and other land was the reason the sports village was built, and I may be wrong but I went to one meeting and the main land owners were Wigan and Leigh collage.so maybe Grundy hill still have a stake in the sports village.

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Quote: summie "Grundy hill estates were the owners of Hilton park and give the rugby club a 99 year lease, all monies collected on match days went to the rugby club that was in 1997,I know they ran the football club{and that went bust},but the sale of Hilton park and other land was the reason the sports village was built, and I may be wrong but I went to one meeting and the main land owners were Wigan and Leigh collage.so maybe Grundy hill still have a stake in the sports village.'"


Grundy Hill still own Hilton Park as far as I am aware , it wasn't part of the LSV deal , that's why it it'S still there . Landlocked and essentially worthless

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[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]TBF he's a good lad Snowy. A wind up merchant but a good lad. :lol:[/quote] [quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]That sig snowy is Ssooooooooooo old !!![/quote] OOpps - nowt changes !! [b]Widnes 8 Leigh 10 LOL!!! Leigh 23 Widnes 16 LOL!! Leigh 30 Widnes 16 LOL!! Widnes 18 Leigh 38 Oh Dear !! Leigh 54 Widnes 16 FFS!!! Leigh 50 Widnes 18 We gave them 3 tries !!! Widnes 18 Leigh 24 Still no points in the 2nd half!! Good luck Widnes. See you in 2015 !![/b]:8043.jpg



Quote: GUBRATS "Grundy Hill still own Hilton Park as far as I am aware , it wasn't part of the LSV deal , that's why it it'S still there . Landlocked and essentially worthless'"


Hilton Park / Leigh East had planning permission for some 80 houses being built of 2 3 and 4 bed homes. For whatever reason, nothing has materialised from this but the plans are probably still in place. Either way, it has never been the most desired land in Town !

I mentioned the 11% as it is the stake Leigh Centurions have in the LSV as a total entity. It has a say and if the club says bye, LSV is potentially worthless.

Leigh Harriers and Leigh East have something to show for it in its entirety and this is the same as the Rugby club in regards to the stadia.

Get LSV valued and pay the rugby club off and potentially buy this worthless piece of land off Grasmere St ? Enough for a great little stadium ?

It wont happen, but we are in this mess due to over inflated egos, pyss poor man management and the inability to revert to a Status Quo, thus ripping a pretty good team apart which in my opinion would have spanked Toronto easily. Hull KRs model should have been repeated.

Our reputation and professionalism has spiralled in the last few years
And people love the position we are in due to arrogance and cockyness.

Time to consolidate and put 17 Leigh lads on the pitch like we did in the Early 90's. Its really important that we don't go into admin for both the club and LSVs sake.

We will come good again and hopefully we will be ran by a good group of people that put both fans and club first.

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Quote: Snowy "Hilton Park / Leigh East had planning permission for some 80 houses being built of 2 3 and 4 bed homes. For whatever reason, nothing has materialised from this but the plans are probably still in place. Either way, it has never been the most desired land in Town !

I mentioned the 11% as it is the stake Leigh Centurions have in the LSV as a total entity. It has a say and if the club says bye, LSV is potentially worthless.

Leigh Harriers and Leigh East have something to show for it in its entirety and this is the same as the Rugby club in regards to the stadia.

Get LSV valued and pay the rugby club off and potentially buy this worthless piece of land off Grasmere St ? Enough for a great little stadium ?

It wont happen, but we are in this mess due to over inflated egos, pyss poor man management and the inability to revert to a Status Quo, thus ripping a pretty good team apart which in my opinion would have spanked Toronto easily. Hull KRs model should have been repeated.

Our reputation and professionalism has spiralled in the last few years
And people love the position we are in due to arrogance and cockyness.

Time to consolidate and put 17 Leigh lads on the pitch like we did in the Early 90's. Its really important that we don't go into admin for both the club and LSVs sake.

We will come good again and hopefully we will be ran by a good group of people that put both fans and club first.'"


I smiled when I read that bit G as I read the story on TL RL from Kevin Ashcroft that team of Leigh lads got us promoted to Div 1.

Funny that one of Beaumonts Yes men also a Leigh lad and club director posted on FB that if the people of Leigh wanted a team of Leigh lads playing in the local Dog and Duck league then so be it but they wanted SL and Loads of Highly Paid Antipodeans to compete with the big boys, well that ended well!

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It was a happy time Ste and we had some wonderful young lads playing for all 3 Leigh groups.

People on the terraces probably didn't realise how happy the players were and Ashy allowed us to go with the flow with zero interference from above.

Unfortunately, money and egos have ruined the club BUT we are in a far better position than 1991 to 93 for sure.

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And people love the position we are in due to arrogance and cockyness.

unfortunately I know some who agree however I am not one of them as an outsider looking in you are obviously a club in turmoil im sure you will come through group-hug.gif

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Well this years been a disaster so it cAn only get better
Personally I can't wait for it to be over

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As far as Rugby has been concerned, it's not been that bad , I've seen worse,it has strong parralels with the season we started as extreme favourites for the League and ended up scratching round for players ,I'm not sure of the year though.The same can be said for this year,we started with a very strong looking squad,yet lost 5 of the first 6 games then found ourselves with to much ground to get back.
I think we became obsessed with Toronto and PR, kept Juksey to long and had to much faith in KC,and Derek's ego needed feeding,the fans did their bit and bought into his vision.Myself as always I enjoyed Blackpool though not the result and enjoyed a few good games.

On a personal view ,it has been a bad year,losing a couple of very close friends,and being badly betrayed by folk very close to me, but the light at the end of the 2019 tunnel hopefully is here, this coming Saturday my eldest Daughter gets married, all our Family and friends will be there, so a happy ending,hopefully a happy ending will occur for the Mighty Leythers.

I know it's a little early but , I think 2020 will be a great year for both the Carolis and Leigh. icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: charlie caroli "As far as Rugby has been concerned, it's not been that bad , I've seen worse,it has strong parralels with the season we started as extreme favourites for the League and ended up scratching round for players ,I'm not sure of the year though.The same can be said for this year,we started with a very strong looking squad,yet lost 5 of the first 6 games then found ourselves with to much ground to get back.
I think we became obsessed with Toronto and PR, kept Juksey to long and had to much faith in KC,and Derek's ego needed feeding,the fans did their bit and bought into his vision.Myself as always I enjoyed Blackpool though not the result and enjoyed a few good games.

On a personal view ,it has been a bad year,losing a couple of very close friends,and being badly betrayed by folk very close to me, but the light at the end of the 2019 tunnel hopefully is here, this coming Saturday my eldest Daughter gets married, all our Family and friends will be there, so a happy ending,hopefully a happy ending will occur for the Mighty Leythers.

I know it's a little early but , I think 2020 will be a great year for both the Carolis and Leigh.
Great post Ian, Luv it. icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: Cokey "Great post Ian, Luv it. Just how I feel Derek.No passion in the shirt today, for whatever reason,,where we go from here is anybodies guess,the players were at fault today, but the blame has to rest with DB, if you want to take the plaudits you should be ready to take the brickbats.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Any news on your existence for the 2019 season?
If there was this much doubt about an expansion club, such as the mighty Toronto Wolfpack or Toulouse, competing in the 2019 season there would be absolute uproar, but when Leigh Centurions existence is in doubt, it is met with silence and absolutely no criticism of the strictest order.


You have really hit a new low of bellendery. And this ain't the V.T where I'll get reprimanded and thrown in the gulag for calling you out.

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