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| Quote DemonUK="DemonUK"I hope you are right. However the manner of defeat in each of the last 3 games and especially the HKR and Wakey ones has hurt the club in a lot of ways. This will include the attitude of some fans. In the past it would be me that went home and 'kicked the cat', but for the first time ever I had to restrain my wife she was so angry at the performance after the Wakey game. Ryan Brierley has openly said the team are not learning fast enough. Personally I don't think they have learnt anything at all. With Bradford winning last time out and more mayhem (Chase suspended) at Salford, all we can do is win ALL our last 4 games. Unless we score a shed load of points I can't see 3 wins being enough now. Fax to beat Salford this Saturday?
Certain important players have not risen to the occasion in any of our first 3 games. Is it because the pressure is too much, is it because we have played 3 SL teams first up, who knows. All I know is that something has gone missing and discipline issues are creeping back in. Kurt was just stupid against Wakey and cannot be defended (even though I am sure some will try). I actually have him as a first choice player in my ideal team by the way.
Either way we will be there on Sunday hopefully with a couple extra in tow'"
A lot of that rings true for me Derek. What we need on Sunday is a rollicking good performance against Sheffield. We SHOULD beat them, but you never know in these games! We too will be there to find out!
P.S. Wish Salford had suspended Rangi before the game against us! 
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| Quote DemonUK="DemonUK"I hope you are right. However the manner of defeat in each of the last 3 games and especially the HKR and Wakey ones has hurt the club in a lot of ways. This will include the attitude of some fans. In the past it would be me that went home and 'kicked the cat', but for the first time ever I had to restrain my wife she was so angry at the performance after the Wakey game. Ryan Brierley has openly said the team are not learning fast enough. Personally I don't think they have learnt anything at all. With Bradford winning last time out and more mayhem (Chase suspended) at Salford, all we can do is win ALL our last 4 games. Unless we score a shed load of points I can't see 3 wins being enough now. Fax to beat Salford this Saturday?
Certain important players have not risen to the occasion in any of our first 3 games. Is it because the pressure is too much, is it because we have played 3 SL teams first up, who knows. All I know is that something has gone missing and discipline issues are creeping back in. Kurt was just stupid against Wakey and cannot be defended (even though I am sure some will try). I actually have him as a first choice player in my ideal team by the way.
Either way we will be there on Sunday hopefully with a couple extra in tow'"
Quote DemonUK(even though I am sure some will try)'"
Who would try and defend that? Stop committing animal cruelty and get back to reality..Leigh by 60,We start now.
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| If Childs spent more time getting our opponents onside and, less time Lecturing our players we may stand a chance!. Last time we played the Eagles, Knowles spent more time in our lineout than his own! Childs is rotten for Leigh we must be careful and toe the line or we will be penalised out of the game. If teams are going to be allowed offside against us we must plan accordingly, we saw what the long kick did against wakey, lets have the short kicks over their offside men! No doubt Tulapapa will be his loco self ? we definitely cant afford to lose this one!
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| Quote kirkhall="kirkhall"If Childs spent more time getting our opponents onside and, less time Lecturing our players we may stand a chance!. Last time we played the Eagles, Knowles spent more time in our lineout than his own! Childs is rotten for Leigh we must be careful and toe the line or we will be penalised out of the game. If teams are going to be allowed offside against us we must plan accordingly, we saw what the long kick did against wakey, lets have the short kicks over their offside men! No doubt Tulapapa will be his loco self ? we definitely cant afford to lose this one!'"
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| Aye, the reason we have lost the first three games is the referees' abysmal performances, nowt to do with poor tactics, poor discipline, poor decision making, players' poor form etc. If the referees gave us a fair crack we would have six points instead of zilch.
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| Quote Alan="Alan"A lot of that rings true for me Derek.'"
I read this at lunch but wasn't logged in and wanted to say exactly that
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| Quote reffy="reffy"Aye, the reason we have lost the first three games is the referees' abysmal performances, nowt to do with poor tactics, poor discipline, poor decision making, players' poor form etc. If the referees gave us a fair crack we would have six points instead of zilch.'"
Oooooh, get you ! Obviously not, we didn't get thrashed at Salford because of the referee. If you watched Childs in action, guess you have, with your username/avatar. Childs doesn't do offside, never looks left/right, defending teams get away with murder...no he's not biased, it's just his weak spot.
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| I know your username is REFFY, but your 'sticking up for officials' is rather predictable and boring. Why don't you type stuff like a Leigh fan, rather than local official Phil Bentham.
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| Quote terrykelly="terrykelly"I know your username is REFFY, but your 'sticking up for officials' is rather predictable and boring. [uWhy don't you type stuff like a Leigh fan[/u, rather than local official Phil Bentham.'"
Your right Terry, But maybe he isn't a Leigh fan really, Just a fan of referees.
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| Best team will win on Sunday irrespective of the referee.
This criticism of Childs goes back to our Challenge Cup defeat to Catalan about 3 seasons ago.
I watched the game again on Centurion TV after that game and posted at the time after watching it again I thought he got the crucial decisions right despite not thinking so in real time.
Leigh will win on Sunday if they play better than Sheffield.
Refs don't win games players do.
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| Quote salfordlad="salfordlad"Best team will win on Sunday irrespective of the referee.
This criticism of Childs goes back to our Challenge Cup defeat to Catalan about 3 seasons ago.
I watched the game again on Centurion TV after that game and posted at the time after watching it again I thought he got the crucial decisions right despite not thinking so in real time.
Leigh will win on Sunday if they play better than Sheffield.
Refs don't win games players do.'"
Hello Frank.
My criticism of Mr Child is that he can get a decision right, but he's not consistent,then he's surrounded by players,then the crowd are booing,then he loses the plot and makes guess decisions giving penalties hoping he can regain his credibility,but by then he's given penalty after penalty,the games gone sour and everyone get's frustrated with the whole outcome of the game. Like I said in an earlier post, Iv'e yet to see him have a good game. For me, I think he needs to take a leaf out of Ben Thaler's book.
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| Quote Cokey="Cokey"Your right Terry, But maybe he isn't a Leigh fan really, Just a fan of referees.'"
I am a Leigh fan and have been for donkey's ages, I have also been a referee. I can see faults in Leigh performances and faults in referees' performances. The average Leigh fan only sees faults in referees' performances and uses them as an excuse.
There are a few who do see the odd fault by their team but if they voice their opinion they are shouted down and ridiculed by the majority wearing cherry & white glasses.
This phenomenon is not unique to Leigh fans.
[u Edit[/u I am not averse to venting my ire at a referee if i think he is wrong but I do that to Leigh players as well. 
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