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Quote: Mookachaka "Leigh can't handle the pressure... they've played two decent sides this year (Hull KR and Warrington) and have bottled it both times (I'm not counting Wakefield and Salford as they had loads of injuries).

Thats the problem with playing in the Championship, you can play for 60 minutes and not lose a home game in 2 years, but when you play against the big boys who play for 80mins its a totally different story.'"



Agreed up to a point. The psychological pressure is probably more difficult than the physicality. It's difficult to suddenly have to concentrate for the full 80. That applies to all Championship clubs but could also be a problem for some SL teams ... how often will Wakey Salford Widnes players switched off this season. Hopefully the Championship will become more rigorous a workout in the future. It's not just about a bigger salary cap.

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Quote: Mookachaka "Leigh can't handle the pressure... they've played two decent sides this year (Hull KR and Warrington) and have bottled it both times (I'm not counting Wakefield and Salford as they had loads of injuries).

Thats the problem with playing in the Championship, you can play for 60 minutes and not lose a home game in 2 years, but when you play against the big boys who play for 80mins its a totally different story.'"


You're not a Leigh fan, are you?

Against Salford, in a close fought match, Leigh played for 80 mins and came out on top. Neither side "bottled it" that day. (I [iam[/i counting that one).

Against a Wakefield team, that was near enough back to full strength, Leigh came back from 24-6 down away from home to win, showing lots of "bottle". (I will count that one too)

Against Warrington, Leigh played well for the first 40 but then switched-off just after half time and the match went away from them. But they chased and never gave up. Losing by just 5 tries to 6 in the end. Again, plenty "bottle" was shown from the lads away from home against SL opposition. A few key moments also went aganst Leigh that day (Brierley tackled without the ball as he was about to receive and go under the sticks), so it was a case of unlucky rather than beaten out of sight.

And finally Hull KR. First half was almost too perfect from Leigh. Showing plenty off "bottle" to rise to the occasion and lead the SL side 24-6 at half time. Second half, some might say they "bottled it" (like you are) and that [icould[/i be a valid argument in some quarters, but, for me, they switched-off mentally, couldn't raise themseves again and subsequently made poor decisions, which allowed Hull KR to grind us down with their SL experience.

For 2 years Leigh hadn't lost at home. Handling all the "pressure" that comes with that. And when they did finally lose, it was largely their own doing.

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Quote: ant7t2 "You're not a Leigh fan, are you?

Against Salford, in a close fought match, Leigh played for 80 mins and came out on top. Neither side "bottled it" that day. (I [iam[/i counting that one).

Against a Wakefield team, that was near enough back to full strength, Leigh came back from 24-6 down away from home to win, showing lots of "bottle". (I will count that one too)

Against Warrington, Leigh played well for the first 40 but then switched-off just after half time and the match went away from them. But they chased and never gave up. Losing by just 5 tries to 6 in the end. Again, plenty "bottle" was shown from the lads away from home against SL opposition. A few key moments also went aganst Leigh that day (Brierley tackled without the ball as he was about to receive and go under the sticks), so it was a case of unlucky rather than beaten out of sight.

And finally Hull KR. First half was almost too perfect from Leigh. Showing plenty off "bottle" to rise to the occasion and lead the SL side 24-6 at half time. Second half, some might say they "bottled it" (like you are) and that [icould[/i be a valid argument in some quarters, but, for me, they switched-off mentally, couldn't raise themseves again and subsequently made poor decisions, which allowed Hull KR to grind us down with their SL experience.

For 2 years Leigh hadn't lost at home. Handling all the "pressure" that comes with that. And when they did finally lose, it was largely their own doing.'"


I think Leigh fans think we'll get in Super League because:

- We got to the Challenge Cup quarter finals
- We've won every home game for 2 years

We nearly lost to Bradford, and they didn't have Gaskell in their team............. I hope we pick our form up because we'll be lucky to finish 5th. Bradford look very dangerous at the moment! They've got a young squad and I think they'll be back in Super League, either this year or the next if they can keep a hold of their young players.

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Quote: Mookachaka "I think Leigh fans think we'll get in Super League becauseWe nearly lost to Bradford, and they didn't have Gaskell in their team............. I hope we pick our form up because we'll be lucky to finish 5th. Bradford look very dangerous at the moment! They've got a young squad and I think they'll be back in Super League, either this year or the next if they can keep a hold of their young players.'"


We beat Bradford earlier in the season and they [idid[/i have Gaskell in their team...

We could go on debating all day, mate.

As it stands, we can still get in top 3. Definitely get in top 5. And then that will leave it down to our "bottle" in the million pound game. icon_biggrin.gif

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There is still all to play for yet and, we have not become a bad side overnight! We need to learn from this defeat as it was largely self inflicted! We must improve our field kicking and put pressure on our opponents, we cant keep doing it by running at them all the time! I hope our confidence has not been damaged? some of the players deserve to lose their place after their KR performance, some players were visibly found wanting in the stamina dept!personally I would like to see Sarsfield and Haggerty involved and Acton too they all have something different to offer? although, Ill leave that decision to the Coaches!
Got my seat today, why give up now after 61 years icon_biggrin.gif
I hope all our fans will get down to the Ding Dong Bell Stadium and make their voices heard, we are still a very good squad of players and excellently coached!

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As a KR supporter I would comment as follows. I don't think Leigh can or should change their style of play. It has served them well over the past two seasons and I see no reason why it won't serve you well in these qualifiers. I was expecting a loss and at half time I was convinced that we would indeed lose. I think that what you have to learn is that there is a time to stick the ball up your jumper, drive for five tackles and then put in a decent kick and let the opposition worry about getting out of their half. You can't play at 100 miles per hour all the time; your players need a breather. By all means hit Salford with all you've got and if you succeed in getting a decent lead then start thinking about how to keep it and frustrate the opposition. You don't have score in every set. You have to build pressure and keep your foot on the oppositions throat.

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Quote: Kiljoy "As a KR supporter I would comment as follows. I don't think Leigh can or should change their style of play. It has served them well over the past two seasons and I see no reason why it won't serve you well in these qualifiers. I was expecting a loss and at half time I was convinced that we would indeed lose. I think that what you have to learn is that there is a time to stick the ball up your jumper, drive for five tackles and then put in a decent kick and let the opposition worry about getting out of their half. You can't play at 100 miles per hour all the time; your players need a breather. By all means hit Salford with all you've got and if you succeed in getting a decent lead then start thinking about how to keep it and frustrate the opposition. You don't have score in every set. You have to build pressure and keep your foot on the oppositions throat.'"


That's fair enough,but also our discipline let us down as well. I'm sure rowls will address this matter.

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Quote: ant7t2 "You're not a Leigh fan, are you?

Think he/she is, but a rather odd one ! icon_biggrin.gif

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Quote: wildshot "Salford controlled the game really well in the first half yesterday and that is probably the best I've seen them play. If that team turns up again next week I think you'd be second best.

If the disruptive, headless chicken Salford that we've seen a few times this year shows up then all bets are on and you could nick it.'"

You say Salford controlled the first half but watching the tries you conceded in the first half your tackling was an absolute disgrace tackle well and you would have won easily

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Can't wait for Sunday , nice to see Marwan again.

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Bet you have prawn butties with him.

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Quote: Kiljoy "You have to build pressure and keep your foot on the oppositions throat.'"


This.

I know it's gone now - and it's all ifs and buts - but when was the last time Leigh "took the 2 points" when they were right on an opponent's goal line??

We changed our mentality right at that moment. I'd be interested to hear about who made the call.

And before anyone says the extra 2 points gave us a 3 score lead. I know that. But another possible try and maybe even more than one set on Hull KR's line might have really finished them off at that point. Plus it would have given us a further confidence boost. 2 points so early was too negative, imo.

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Think it was Riddy and at the time thought it was the right thing to do. Didn't at full time though.

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Quote: ant7t2 "This.

I know it's gone now - and it's all ifs and buts - but when was the last time Leigh "took the 2 points" when they were right on an opponent's goal line??

We changed our mentality right at that moment. I'd be interested to hear about who made the call.

And before anyone says the extra 2 points gave us a 3 score lead. I know that. But another possible try and maybe even more than one set on Hull KR's line might have really finished them off at that point. Plus it would have given us a further confidence boost. 2 points so early was too negative, imo.'"


To be fair ant, You use the words maybe,possible and might. Those words can be used if the game went differently. e.g. Riddy kicks the two points we get the ball back,then a bit of champagne rugby,kay in at the corner,then Riddy does a great conversion,ball back and so on...............Although it didn't go that way,I won't be criticizing that decision.

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If Armstrong hadn't passed into touch on our own 10 then the pattern of the game may not have changed, then again it may not have done

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