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| Quote Dico="Dico"What worries me is that if Bradford are relegated to the Chp, they'd probably, upon finding some nice new shiny investors find themselves taking the Chp spot back to SL in a couple of year's time which would be wrong.
RL needs a strong Bradford side tbh'"
It does. And it also needs the RFL to realise that ALL clubs should be able to aspire to play in the top league. Licensing is flawed ' every time it comes around the criteria are changed to protect those already there.
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| Bradford would go to C1 with a £150k or so salary cap, and would be in no position to apply in 2014.
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| Quote maurice="maurice"Bradford would go to C1 with a £150k or so salary cap, and would be in no position to apply in 2014.'"
Coz thats gonna happen 
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| Quote maurice="maurice"Bradford would go to C1 with a £150k or so salary cap, and would be in no position to apply in 2014.'"
They could fluke next seasons Trains Cup, and would be in a position to apply!!
If the Bulls do go belly up, what will the RFL do with Odslum? Will they just flog it off to the highest bidder, or could this be the opportunity for the sport to finally get it's own 'base' - re-develop the site into the "Twickkers of The North"??
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| I think the Tax Man ought to be questioning the sale of Odsal to the RFL.
There are a number of things that appear potentially difficult about the sale: Did Bradford and the RFL understand the poor financial state of the club, and the impending likelihood of liquidation? If so, was the sale concocted to ensure that Odsal would not be sold due to liquidation? Were fair market rates paid by the RFL, for an asset that would have had substantial value for the clubs creditors?
In other words, have Bradford illegally cheated their creditors out of money that could have been released during liquidation? And are the RFL conspirators in this potential fraud?
There may be circumstances that I am unaware of that may render my questions moot - but the situation certainly seems to be more than a little dodgy.
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| Michael - Bulls didn't sell Odsall to the RFL they sold the lease, BMCC own Odsall. Also, I believe HMRC have already hit the Bulls with a VAT bill for the sale of said lease.
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| Quote rob_a="rob_a"Michael - Bulls didn't sell Odsall to the RFL they sold the lease, BMCC own Odsall. Also, I believe HMRC have already hit the Bulls with a VAT bill for the sale of said lease.'"
I don't believe it matters if it was a secure lease or if it was the land.
A secure lease must be relinquished before the land can be developed. The tenant can effectively make the land worth £0 to the owner if they don't co-operate, so the leaseholder holds the aces until the lease expires.
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| The lease was 'sold' to the RFL to repay an rfl loan wasn't it. In which case the rfl may have known about the impending crash.
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| looks like mr lewis`s timing wasnt to bad after all,if the rugby league knew something was brewing like this.good luck bradford i hope you can sort something out
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| Quote Michael_Ward="Michael_Ward"I don't believe it matters if it was a secure lease or if it was the land.
A secure lease must be relinquished before the land can be developed. The tenant can effectively make the land worth £0 to the owner if they don't co-operate, so the leaseholder holds the aces until the lease expires.'"
I can recall being slaughtered for my anti SCL stance in 2003, the cva lost the club the 99 year lease and hence it had little to negotiate with from the move to LSV and nothing from the sale of HP.
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| Quote maurice="maurice"I can recall being slaughtered for my anti SCL stance in 2003, the cva lost the club the 99 year lease and hence it had little to negotiate with from the move to LSV and nothing from the sale of HP.'"
Subtleties that some of us have come to understand since then. I supported the consortium bid at the time, but in retrospect I think Mr Nolan would have had run the club well and he couldn't have ripped us off (my main worry) because we didn't have any assets to rip off. However, we would have retained the secure tenancy which would have given us a bargaining chip to get some money from the sale of HP.
Of course, that sale hasn't materialised yet, due to planning permission problems, so it hasn't yet had a negative impact. But one day it will, when we don't get the slice of cash we should have got.
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| Once again, W1g4n council made it quite clear to the directors of Sporting Club Leigh that if they refused to sign the agreement to play at the LSV, Hilton Park would have its H and S capacity reduced to 1,000 .
Now maybe Mike Nolan would have been willing to play ' Hardball ' with the council, maybe that is why he ran the club into the ground financially in 2002 to attempt to gain majority ownership , but he wasn't from the town and essentially it would not have affected him .
Maybe the place to look at the reasons the club had to give up its lease and therefore any potential ' windfall ' is with the people who were at the forefront of getting the LSV built, they are the ones who put the club in an untenable position, the Centurions are not the only ones who were promised things would be ' workable ' and ' viable ' only to find they are not
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