Then why don't you explain to people what you mean, rather than just make dismissive comments like '£ 280.00 , write your cheques out now'?

I've asked this question and can give you the answer.

If they sold a ST at £99 they would be bust in no time or playing the U'18s every week.

£99 after VAT is £80 (thereabouts). After paying LSV for the use of that £20m stadium, that leaves about £65.

On 14 games, that means the club gets just over £4.50 per game of our hardearned.

Its just not enough.

Because I have discovered that if you actually post bad news ( reality ) and lay it all out , nobody replies and the thread dies a quick death , this has happened many times , especially on the VT

If you post just a bit , you get people asking you to explain , therefore more people see it , and more thought is given to it

My season ticket last season was £60.

I have mentioned before it is far too cheap for concessions at Leigh.

It was £12 a game for people at my age when I watched us at Fax for example.

Miles to cheap?.

So what you're saying is you lie and hold back information and waste peoples time, so they talk to you?

I notice that when a thread starts that's rubbish and Fred politely comes in and explains the situation people normally react with 'fair enough' or 'I stand corrected' etc.

If you have more information, that's not negative nonsense, why not just say it rather than making people ask you for it and making yourself look stupid?

We're all on the same side you know that? It's not Starbug and his Jacket Spud v Everyone else.

You asked

I've got my answer.

Attention.

What we need to do is offer incentives, we should have records of season ticket holders so send them letters for renewal and a separate application form for a recommended fan! Then the fan signing up a newbie gets £10 off.

I like the idea of paying x amount all year round, seems like a way to keep constant income to the club.

at the moment the widnes model appears to be the future.

What if the club did that and issued shares to the 'fans organisation' in return so it had a voice and transparency?