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| Quote: GUBRATS "While a fan owned club is a brilliant idea , it is completely unworkable
Sorry Neil'"
What's a fan owned club? Is derek not a fan, where you not a fan?? We are stupid enough to do what we do because we are fans. I will assume that the confusion between a fan owned club and my share issue is one member one vote, because that's certainly not my suggestion, one share one vote just like any other company except you will be guaranteed not to make money.
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| Quote: Montyburns "Liked this post after the first paragraph
Agreed
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| Quote: maurice "What's a fan owned club? Is derek not a fan, where you not a fan?? We are stupid enough to do what we do because we are fans. I will assume that the confusion between a fan owned club and my share issue is one member one vote, because that's certainly not my suggestion, one share one vote just like any other company except you will be guaranteed not to make money.'"
Still unworkable
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| Quote: GUBRATS "Still unworkable'"
Yet selling out LSV is
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| Quote: maurice "Yet selling out LSV is'"
Not easy , but surely you agree it should be the aim ?
The more you fill it , the less any owner or share/stakeholder has to add , and indeed finding a benefactor becomes much easier , in fact , they'd be queuing up at the door
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| Quote: GUBRATS "Not easy , but surely you agree it should be the aim ?
The more you fill it , the less any owner or share/stakeholder has to add , and indeed finding a benefactor becomes much easier , in fact , they'd be queuing up at the door'"
Clueless
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| Quote: EVO105 "Clueless'"
Good argument
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| It's an observation not an argument
Clueless
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| Quote: EVO105 "It's an observation not an argument
Clueless'"
So you believe we shouldn't be trying to fill the stadium ?
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| This ' observation ' taking a bit longer ?
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| Just having some food
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Derek to get a queens honour (mbe) by 2025
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[quote="Michael_Ward"]Ricky Bibey = cack.
He's no good - the lad is huge but couldn't bust through a wet paper bag. He was crap at Wigan, he was crap here, and christ knows why Saints then signed him. Predictably, he was crap there as well.
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| Get back to attractive rugby and the crowds will come
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| Quote: Peter Kay "Get back to attractive rugby and the crowds will come'"
well for a change , you are at least partly right Peter
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| Quote: maurice "A few observations
1.2013 we were down to 1100 paying fans with a team challenging for top spot - the club failed to pay its PT players on a pittance and had a tax bill unpaid that was about to wind the club up
2. A rallying call went out for fans to provide some cash initially then direction to take the club forward - I do not recall you at those meetings and the level of cash asked wasn't great
3. The change in strategy and on field success drew in new fans, to such a level that our 2017 demotion drew a greater gate than our '82 success. Derek funded that period, he put his hand up then really put his hand up
4. Failure to Back it by DB in 2018 - that is just about the most clueless comment ever seen on this board. We entered the season odds on favourites because of how he backed up the relegation with the squad assembled - is that too hard for some to digest?
5. Due to the shocking failure of 2018 we needed to shed a million pound off the playing budget the option was administration, a position that would allow the creditors some tax benefits on what was owed, ie DB,
6. We failed to attract any serious investment after DB offered his shares and to wipe the debt off. I spoke to a few local lads who done good - not interested - common theme why put my hard earned in to attract abuse, rather sponsor games and have a box. Nobody puts in £1.4m in order to lose it like we did.
7. We are where we are. We have been here before and will be here again, the stakeholders of any sports club are its fans - that will never change - today I will renew our 2 season tickets whilst buying a 3rd as a Christmas present for a PT fan. At the weekend I spoke to a few lads about doing something away from the club which may or may not take off. I am a huge advocate of fan ownership, I believe we should have a share issue to spread the burden and create the financial clout to have a real pop at SL again because to do so will require significant input above what we can realistically achieve via gate and sponsorship.'"
With respect I question your figure of a £1.4m investment. Was that the investment used prior to promotion to SL? I recall you stating how much it cost to run the club, and without DB we wouldn't have one.
So how does it equate now for 2019, that you can run a club on £350k ? And still have those running costs,without financial input?
The wage bill was paid for in 2017. So what investment was made in 2017? I recall to break even without investment for that year was an average home attendance of 5,500. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the figure was boasted and more than matched.
So yes they maybe clueless comments, but your own don't add up.
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| How much and when isn't really any of our business or even revelant . Derek has invested a substantial amount , the exact amount is his business and his business alone
We were in a bad place unable to pay wages and tax when he got back involved , since then we've been in SL and essentially paid or come to agreement to pay everybody
If he's still involved , albeit without committing to major investment ATM , but no doubt still covering some shortfalls of which there are many when running a sports club , and he is happy with that , then I for one am happy that he is still around
Some seem to believe or want to believe he's saving up for another tilt at SL when Mr Argyles millions are out of the way , me , I couldn't care less and as long as he's willing to keep us operating then I'm happy with whatever financial ' back up ' he is willing to commit to
As I've put , I personally believe we need to look to at working much harder to build our one primary long term source of income , fans
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