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I,m sorry to sound like a soft touch but an Asylum seeker and an immigrant are not the same thing.
Aren,t asylum seekers held in detention centres until their cases are looked into ? I honestly think they are but there are people no doubt who do and will abscond. In the scheme of things those allowances would hardly go far enough for anyone to live the life of Reilly.
Can you imagine living in a country with an undemocratic government, usually based on a belief in a mythical being, with no hope and living in fear for whatever reason every day of your life.
No wonder they want asylum. I realise this is rather simplistic and some do tell lies but we are not the only country that accepts asylum seakers.
At the end of the day we are bound to get some false asylum seekers and some lazy no account immigrants. Its the price we pay for being a civilised democratic country.
Where would you rather live here or in Africa for eg ?
Altruism, as a nation, will pay dividends. Over to those who disagree.
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I,m sorry to sound like a soft touch but an Asylum seeker and an immigrant are not the same thing.
Aren,t asylum seekers held in detention centres until their cases are looked into ? I honestly think they are but there are people no doubt who do and will abscond. In the scheme of things those allowances would hardly go far enough for anyone to live the life of Reilly.
Can you imagine living in a country with an undemocratic government, usually based on a belief in a mythical being, with no hope and living in fear for whatever reason every day of your life.
No wonder they want asylum. I realise this is rather simplistic and some do tell lies but we are not the only country that accepts asylum seakers.
At the end of the day we are bound to get some false asylum seekers and some lazy no account immigrants. Its the price we pay for being a civilised democratic country.
Where would you rather live here or in Africa for eg ?
Altruism, as a nation, will pay dividends. Over to those who disagree.
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People are not grasping this - the only people who get any sort of special treatment are asylum seekers, and they have to meet some very stringent criteria to get the help they deserve.
Every other problem is one that is much a problem amongst white British as it is amongst those from other countries. Those issues need dealing with, but the solutions will affect all and not just the foreign.
Don't let xenophobia cloud your judgement. This country has a lot of problems, but very few of those problems are caused by immigrants.
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| Quote Kelly's Eye="Kelly's Eye"I had the pleasure of visiting Tottenham recently with 3 business colleagues and all 4 of us said the same...............are we in the UK or are we in another country because we felt so out of place.
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| Quote Michael_Ward="Michael_Ward"[size=150People are not grasping this[/size - the only people who get any sort of special treatment are asylum seekers, and they have to meet some very stringent criteria to get the help they deserve.
Every other problem is one that is much a problem amongst white British as it is amongst those from other countries. Those issues need dealing with, but the solutions will affect all and not just the foreign.
Don't let xenophobia cloud your judgement. This country has a lot of problems, but very few of those problems are caused by immigrants.'"
GRASP THIS...........................
Walk round Leigh Town centre anyday of the week with your EYES OPEN.
Seriously just take the time to do it, collect your thoughts on what you see, stand outside the general post office and again collect your thoughts on what you see..........................then the final frontier!!
Spend 30 minutes (If you can stand it) in ANY town centre bookmakers and the penny will drop.
If you get the chance catch up with our MP and ask him his thoughts, he'll tell you they all work nights or have rich families in their native land transfering money on a regular basis in to their TSB accounts!! |
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| Quote Walt Mooney Fan Club="Walt Mooney Fan Club"I know this sounds like petty semantics, but you do realise that there is a difference between the terms [iimmigrant[/i and [iasylum seeker[/i?'"
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| Quote Alexs Dad="Alexs Dad"Its a fair comment Walt if you want to split hairs, but all much of a muchness in the grand scheme of things.'"
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| Quote Walt Mooney Fan Club="Walt Mooney Fan Club"But they are not - and that is the whole point.'"
If you're nitpicking the diffeerence between the two then yes, there is considerable difference. The point came about that people claiming asylum [ido[/i actually have more rights (granted a very tiny amount) because they have something me and thee cannot claim. It was in fairness petty, but a fact none the same.
Anyway, I've not heard many people whinging about the bigger issue say 'I dont mind him, he's an immigrant, but I dont like him becuase he's claiming asylum'.
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| Quote Michael_Ward="Michael_Ward"People are not grasping this - the only people who get any sort of special treatment are asylum seekers, and they have to meet some very stringent criteria to get the help they deserve.
Every other problem is one that is much a problem amongst white British as it is amongst those from other countries. Those issues need dealing with, but the solutions will affect all and not just the foreign.
Don't let xenophobia cloud your judgement. This country has a lot of problems, but very few of those problems are caused by immigrants.'"
You wanna try living in my house then next door to a bunch of wasters with no jobs who don't speak a word of the Queen's and don't care how much noise they make any day or night of the week.
None of them work and they must be claiming every benefit under the sun. It's an absolute disgrace. I've nothing against anyone who wants to come here and add something to the country and fit in but people like this want throwing back on the boat. |
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| Quote mutt1="mutt1"It's not often i'd say this but boy i wish i was australian
 I've said it before and i'll say it again i can't wait to leave this island and join my girlfriends family in the land of the free.
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| Quote mr. chairman="mr. chairman"after eight pages of debate on this subject surely ther is something not right with our country'"
The real problem is that there's something seriously wrong with the global economy (I believe a fatal flaw brought about by the debt based economic system - but thats another matter entirely) and now were all looking for scapegoats.
The BNP have decided that immigrants are their scapegoat of choice, when IMO every member of the working class should target the real villains who created this sorry mess, the greedy Banksters and all the other Multi-National Corporate institutions that play off the workers of the world in a race to the bottom in regards wages, working conditions etc.
That said, I can't condone the attack on the BNP guy just because he has radical political views I disagree with. I too have extreme views (leaning far left these days) and I would hate to think I'd get smashed around the head for merely voicing an ideological worldview that somebody disagreed with. |
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Ahh politics.... but is the pope catholic?
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| Quote LeighGionaire="LeighGionaire"The real problem is that there's something seriously wrong with the global economy (I believe a fatal flaw brought about by the debt based economic system - but thats another matter entirely) and now were all looking for scapegoats.
The BNP have decided that immigrants are their scapegoat of choice, when IMO every member of the working class should target the real villains who created this sorry mess, the greedy Banksters and all the other Multi-National Corporate institutions that play off the workers of the world in a race to the bottom in regards wages, working conditions etc.
That said, I can't condone the attack on the BNP guy just because he has radical political views I disagree with. I too have extreme views (leaning far left these days) and I would hate to think I'd get smashed around the head for merely voicing an ideological worldview that somebody disagreed with.'" Mostly agree but infront of (w)Bankers you missed out incompetant, thick, short sighted, overpaid featherbedded excessively featherbedded shameless, it was the other guys fault,50 year old Scottish failure now on £700000 a year for life.
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