Listen, I know someone who's father unfortunatly passed away but he was the carer for his wife and this persons mother. She lived a good distance away from any immediate family and was looking for support to due to the circumstances.

What did they as a family get offered after many meetings?

SWEET FA!!

Both herself and her husband had worked all their life, paid their dues and in her hour of need all the social services were after was her money and her house to secure her a place in a care home, not ensuring that in the immediate future she got the assistance she so badly needed.

The more you have, the more you pay and the less you get back from this Goverment.

Its a f00king joke

Why should someone who has worked all their life and paid everything that has been asked be forced to give up what they have to gain some support when it is most needed. Yet some of these jokers who come over here get everything they need and then some to the point that they need not work, some also decide to become professional babymaking machines such is the lucrative nature of that particular profession!!!

At times you can be a second class citizen in this country if your born and bred here.

I had the pleasure of visiting Tottenham recently with 3 business colleagues and all 4 of us said the same...............are we in the UK or are we in another country because we felt so out of place.

Rant over.

People are not grasping this - the only people who get any sort of special treatment are asylum seekers, and they have to meet some very stringent criteria to get the help they deserve.

Every other problem is one that is much a problem amongst white British as it is amongst those from other countries. Those issues need dealing with, but the solutions will affect all and not just the foreign.

Don't let xenophobia cloud your judgement. This country has a lot of problems, but very few of those problems are caused by immigrants.

Why did you have to travel so far?

You can have the same experience locally

GRASP THIS...........................

Walk round Leigh Town centre anyday of the week with your EYES OPEN.

Seriously just take the time to do it, collect your thoughts on what you see, stand outside the general post office and again collect your thoughts on what you see..........................then the final frontier!!

Spend 30 minutes (If you can stand it) in ANY town centre bookmakers and the penny will drop.

If you get the chance catch up with our MP and ask him his thoughts, he'll tell you they all work nights or have rich families in their native land transfering money on a regular basis in to their TSB accounts!!

Its a fair comment Walt if you want to split hairs, but all much of a muchness in the grand scheme of things.

But they are not - and that is the whole point.

If you're nitpicking the diffeerence between the two then yes, there is considerable difference. The point came about that people claiming asylum [ido[/i actually have more rights (granted a very tiny amount) because they have something me and thee cannot claim. It was in fairness petty, but a fact none the same.

Anyway, I've not heard many people whinging about the bigger issue say 'I dont mind him, he's an immigrant, but I dont like him becuase he's claiming asylum'.

Much of a muchness in the bigger issue, like I said.

You wanna try living in my house then next door to a bunch of wasters with no jobs who don't speak a word of the Queen's and don't care how much noise they make any day or night of the week.

None of them work and they must be claiming every benefit under the sun. It's an absolute disgrace. I've nothing against anyone who wants to come here and add something to the country and fit in but people like this want throwing back on the boat.

The real problem is that there's something seriously wrong with the global economy (I believe a fatal flaw brought about by the debt based economic system - but thats another matter entirely) and now were all looking for scapegoats.

The BNP have decided that immigrants are their scapegoat of choice, when IMO every member of the working class should target the real villains who created this sorry mess, the greedy Banksters and all the other Multi-National Corporate institutions that play off the workers of the world in a race to the bottom in regards wages, working conditions etc.

That said, I can't condone the attack on the BNP guy just because he has radical political views I disagree with. I too have extreme views (leaning far left these days) and I would hate to think I'd get smashed around the head for merely voicing an ideological worldview that somebody disagreed with.

Ahh politics.... but is the pope catholic?

Mostly agree but infront of (w)Bankers you missed out incompetant, thick, short sighted, overpaid featherbedded excessively featherbedded shameless, it was the other guys fault,50 year old Scottish failure now on £700000 a year for life.

Mind you there always be those who blame immigration, which surprisingly some think will be ok if they become am immigrant.

what I would like to know is what on earth is this subject doing on a fans forum. surely a fans forum should be just about rugby matters, We should leave subjects like this to Leigh Life. where the members of the closed shop on there can gossip away to their hearts content about this and anything else that is uninteresting. Please lets keep it real