Don't think we'd have hung on 13 or not, we were already on the back foot

That was my conclusion as well Col, Toronto were on the ascendancy at that point and boy were we playing some real dumb Rugby League in that final quarter.

2 Half backs executing up and unders to an opposition facing our try line line is never a text book example of game management it must be said.

Either way, I'd rather have 13 on than 12.

Really? It was Leigh's game before the dismissal. And losing Bailey on 23 minutes didn't exactly help. Even though not at their best, Leigh was by far the better side. Ridyard would have nailed the penalty.

If Pete's high shot was middle of the field - penalty only, and a ticking off. Yellow was ridiculous.

Both sides D were shocking in that game and if we'd tightened it up when 10 in front we'd have won.

Can't blame Ben either with that kick. The match shouldn't have come down to that anyway.

Had they not just scored 2 tries (and that's a bit of a question because I'm not fully sure that was the chain of events)

Don't think Bailey lasted that long, and no it certainly did not help. Thought Acton put a crackin shift in but was somewhat error strewn - crackin try though

No I don't think we deserved to lose, two poor teams on the day but we looked bette offensively, just fell apart last 15

Fookin Riddy this, Fookin Riddy that - nobody mentioned him previous 11 games, apart from when we nailed him a couple of weeks ago - moved on get over it. Reynolds a more than decent kicker, and had a more than decent game in my opinion

Quite right.....the knock on by toronto missed by the ref on their tryline could have sealed it for us.....

Reynolds goalkicking, yes. Field kicking and decision-making, iffy.

The lad tries his best but he does not have that creative spark about him that all play makers must posses. His game relies heavily on runners but I feel he lacks the 'Intelligent' decision making to be true decent 6.

I will never fault the lads effort in the shirt. He gives 100%. It's all I ask.

But deffo improved generally over las 12 months - we had the better h/b pairing for me on sat, Brierley (goal kicking apart) was poor and one dimensional

Oh Ben has improved (effort, defence, conversions) but if he wants to be a SL half he needs to learn a bit quicker ball in hand etc.

Brierley always looks lively I will give him that and he can pass a ball. But he's too slight to take the line on, does same move ball in hand (up to the line then usually a short pass).

Showed in SL that he wasn't a good enough player and scores tries in the Champ only coz Rowley's style stretches part time defences easily.

Hutchinson is different again. Great passer, takes line on like a 13, decent decisions ball in hand but very average kicking.

In short, both Ben and Hutchy work hard but neither is SL standard (yet?) regarding their overall game.

Brierley will be replaced when TW hit SL.

Well Hutchison was first choice 7 @ NRL prior to injury which is a different world to SL, so he certainly has summat about him

Both him and Reynolds taken the line on a lot more with Purtill and create more confusion with the opposition defence - kicking game is a bit of a worry I must admit