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| I'd be interested to know if certain local clubs are still ignoring RFL guidelines on Scholarship numbers ?
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| Quote GUBRATS="GUBRATS"I'd be interested to know if certain local clubs are still ignoring RFL guidelines on Scholarship numbers ?'"
Please explain mate, for those (like myself) who don't know, what are the rules/guidelines ?
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| Correct me if I am wrong but, doesn't Leigh as a town have 2 of the most successful amateur RL Clubs of recent times in Miners & East.
Seemingly most years I am reading about how highly one or the other/often both have finished or that they have won a comp outright. Of course there are other clubs of note in other areas who are always there or thereabouts such as Hull Dockers, Thato Heath etc, but even the Wigan clubs can't hold a candle to our two over recent times.
How is it then that Saints can see something in Leigh ARL players that we don't ?
Do LCRLFC have scouts watching ARL & our local teams in particular & does it have a proper scouting system in place ? Do we look further afield at other areas in ARL ? Who is/are our scouts ?
Not really having a dig at the Club, more that as a fan with no connections inside the Club it is hard to know what if anything the Club are doing in this area.
It would be nice to think that we are planning for the future without just chasing Aussies or released SL players etc.
Recruitment, Rangi Chase aside has been very good, but we are buying in, economically & for the good of British RL, only importing, either from overseas or other SL Clubs is not IMHO the way forward, Leeds must be the model, Bradford to as a Championship example.
I know it's early days & that we must first consolidate our position in SL but long term, academy RL is the road to success.
Just my opinion.
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| Quote Ste100Centurions="Ste100Centurions"Please explain mate, for those (like myself) who don't know, what are the rules/guidelines ?'"
The rules used to be ( might still be , not sure ) that clubs were allowed 10 or 12 at any single age group from I think it was 12-15
Some clubs used to flaunt these rules running 60/70/80 kids in their Scholarships
To me it is quite simple , if you can run Scholarships and academies properly , with a reasonable share of the best quality kids , then do it , if you are constantly trying to turn sows ears into silk purses with little success , then don't bother
Salford possibly have taken this decision
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| Quote KING OF LEIGH="KING OF LEIGH"Don't bite chaps'"
Was only a humorous comment, wasn t looking for a bite
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| Quote Ste100Centurions="Ste100Centurions"Correct me if I am wrong but, doesn't Leigh as a town have 2 of the most successful amateur RL Clubs of recent times in Miners & East.
Seemingly most years I am reading about how highly one or the other/often both have finished or that they have won a comp outright. Of course there are other clubs of note in other areas who are always there or thereabouts such as Hull Dockers, Thato Heath etc, but even the Wigan clubs can't hold a candle to our two over recent times.
How is it then that Saints can see something in Leigh ARL players that we don't ?
Do LCRLFC have scouts watching ARL & our local teams in particular & does it have a proper scouting system in place ? Do we look further afield at other areas in ARL ? Who is/are our scouts ?
Not really having a dig at the Club, more that as a fan with no connections inside the Club it is hard to know what if anything the Club are doing in this area.
It would be nice to think that we are planning for the future without just chasing Aussies or released SL players etc.
Recruitment, Rangi Chase aside has been very good, but we are buying in, economically & for the good of British RL, only importing, either from overseas or other SL Clubs is not IMHO the way forward, Leeds must be the model, Bradford to as a Championship example.
I know it's early days & that we must first consolidate our position in SL but long term, academy RL is the road to success.
Just my opinion.'"
Its quite difficult as most U16 players will want to join a category 1 (academy) club. The benefit of being a category 1 club is they get to keep those players all season, which means that they cannot go to any other club.
As Salford where downgraded to category 2,U16's would only get to play a maximum of six games per season,usually January/February and then return to their amateur clubs.
So straight away you have to ask the question? Where is the clear pathway to U19's and First team levels being a category 2 club?
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| If Salford were downgraded to category 2 then they only have themselves to blame.
Not sure how it affects Leigh if you're just beginning. Do you have to start at Category 2?
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| Quote Bullseye="Bullseye"If Salford were downgraded to category 2 then they only have themselves to blame.
Not sure how it affects Leigh if you're just beginning. Do you have to start at Category 2?'"
Easy to preach from your former lofty heights when your current batch were signed up 8/9 years ago , this might change given your current status
The Wigans/Leeds/Saints of this world take any and all youngsters displaying any potential knowing full well 95% will get nowhere near a first team shirt , other clubs then have to take whatever is left and try to produce players , hardly surprising not many manage it
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| Quote Bullseye="Bullseye"If Salford were downgraded to category 2 then they only have themselves to blame.
Not sure how it affects Leigh if you're just beginning. Do you have to start at Category 2?'"
Suppose it depends upon what you regard as beginning.So now we are in SL we should have an academy or shouldn't be in SL is the one going around,but who feeds the academies?
Personally I dont see the RFL academy approach helping Leigh or assisting the game in our area.We need to take it a step further and not be put under the restrictions of the RFL.If we are to have an academy I'd rather it be independant/ in-house,and the RFL can keep their funding.
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| Quote atomic="atomic"Suppose it depends upon what you regard as beginning.So now we are in SL we should have an academy or shouldn't be in SL is the one going around,but who feeds the academies?
Personally I dont see the RFL academy approach helping Leigh or assisting the game in our area.We need to take it a step further and not be put under the restrictions of the RFL.If we are to have an academy I'd rather it be independant/ in-house,and the RFL can keep their funding.'"
So you would like Degsy to 100% fund a LCRLFC Academy & pass/refuse the £100k from The RFL atomic ?
Who would we/the academy team play if it were entirely in house/independent ?
Sorry pal, I just don't get your reasoning on this.
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| I believe its 5k per player Ste..So if we have year 10 U16's 20 of and year 11 U16's 20 of.That equates to £200k.Thats before we start on the U19's.Gameplay is only part of the curriculum,its not reserve or A team scenario. Six games max for U16's,Eight for U19's..
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