Clay should be worth a shot also.......went very well against the French.

The Pownall incident was a bad one. It was indeed a cheap shot and should be looked at by the RFL.

In the first half of the season maybe , ut what about the rest of the season ?

has anyone actually seen the dvd of the incident?

Well Fred certainly has.

Aye Bart, but I can't see any posts from Fred. The hit was just in front of me. Like everyone else I saw it in 'real time'. Normally when a borderline hit goes in I look straight at the ref - half expecting a penalty. But my initial reaction was that he just got cleaned out good and proper with one of a series of big hits that happened on friday. Then I hear (and read) a different view from Leigh fans - that's why I asked if anyone has actually seen the recording - cos I haven't yet - getting a copy tomorrow hopefully.

You're right. We all need to see the incident before passing judgement. To me, 'in real time', it looked like a heavy shoulder charge. There is a suggestion that young Pownall broke his collar bone, which wouldn't make the charge illegal. I suppose the point of interest would be how he got an apparent bang in the face - and exactly what Stuart Dickens then did, when the lad was lying prone. (it didn't seem to be the kiss of life!

) However, just to re-iterate your point, it's all conjecture really.

Someone on here likened it to the Rangi Chase challenge on Ropati. I don't think so! I've watched that one umpteen times and still reckon it was Chase's elbow!

I've broken my nose playing rugby five times Alan. Each time it was in the tackle and on none of the occassions was foul play involved. It happens in contact sport.
Your initial interpretation was (coincidently) exactly how I saw it. But having read and heard all the accounts from Leigh fans I was begining to believe I'd seen it wrongly. - perhaps not. I shall see the recording tomorrow then hopefully I can pass a more informed comment.

Comparisons to the Rangi Chase shot are (IMO) ridiculous. That was an unforgiveable deliberate attempt to harm someone.
Like I said, I will see the vid. If I believe the fev player made a cheap shot, I will say so. I've never ducked owt like this before. I won't start now.

Fred went straight on his hols I think and has no way of commenting untill he gets back to civilisation.

Same as everyone else in the team. I don't think he was the same after he got injured at Sheffield away, don't think he got to 100% anyway.

Judge for yourselves www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxFiDu6FaiQ Pownall challenge is at 5 mins 30 secondsish Leigh players flying in from all angles is about 10 seconds later

Judge for yourselves www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxFiDu6FaiQ Pownall challenge is at 5 mins 30 secondsish Leigh players flying in from all angles is about 10 seconds later

Quote Fevxr2i="Fevxr2i"Judge for yourselves www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxFiDu6FaiQ Pownall challenge is at 5 mins 30 secondsish Leigh players flying in from all angles is about 10 seconds later'" Just watched it and it does look high but for me the cheap shot by Dickens when Pownall is on the floor wasn't necessary

Quote Fevxr2i="Fevxr2i"Judge for yourselves www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxFiDu6FaiQ Pownall challenge is at 5 mins 30 secondsish Leigh players flying in from all angles is about 10 seconds later'" Just watched it and it does look high but for me the cheap shot by Dickens when Pownall is on the floor wasn't necessary