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Quote: Brad Fittler Fan Club "In what way? - East junior section has use of the outside pitch and the plastic pitch - Manchester Road has the main full size pitch, 2 further full sized pitches, 2 mod-league pitches and 2 mini-league pitches. In winter the junior section utilises the all-weather facilities at Bedford High, Lowton & St Marys. Work has just commenced on extending the clubhouse/changing rooms. So in what way is Leigh East facilities FAR BETTER than Miners?

Apologies for the confusion.

I completely forgot about Manchester Rd !! icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: cherry & white "How can they say they are acting in the interest of spending the tax payers money when the council bailed out the LSV as a whole to the tune of £500,000 last year? they have 2 execs who run the village and are paid over £100,000 a year.

secondly why would they want the bar when they have been franchising there own out? they run very few bars now? the one at the stadium? monaco? let Leigh east franchise it out if thats the case!

Top and bottom every year they move the goal post and offer empty promises, the people we deal with are bullies and are ultimately puppets for LPS. Why should we trust them when everything they have given or offered they have subsequently taken away.

Yours Frustrated parent'"


The council must be bonkers if they think that the Administrative Incompetents that are, the LSV,can operate the clubhouse. It is no secret I,m sure Mr Chairman will vouch that the the SMT @ Leigh Sports Village have wanted total control of the "Pavilion" since the stadium was handed over in 2008.

LSV have approx 24 employees,guesstimate salary £550,000. That takes some finding for a sports stadium that by its own admission can only take 40 fixtures per year. The rent for office space and tenancy agreements i would think/hope cover the utitilities and other running costs. I believe the original management structure for the Lsv called for a stadium manager to oversee the day to day running and responsibility to various staff (groundsmen,marketing, maintainance), answering to a board of directors made up of various council employees. looking through the archives i can find no advertised vacancies for a CEO or Operations Director. Ivory towers need to fall and the original vision needs to be revisited. A community stadium with affordable/quality spectator facilities. opposed to a facility sold to the highest bidder.

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rlhttps://www.sportandrecreation.org.uk/lobbying-and-campaigning/consultations/05-06-2013/community-amateur-sports-clubs-schemerl
Have you seen the attached?

This part especially...

Level of social (ie non-sporting) income: This will effectively limit the amount of social income (eg bar and restaurant income, venue hire etc) that can be generated by a club. Different sports may be affected to varying degrees by these proposals but some clubs could potentially be adversely affected (although ultimately there should be the option to establish a trading subsidiary to enable all clubs to remain in the scheme). Sport will also need to be aware of plans to define a social member and a guest for the purposes of the scheme. - See more at: www.sportandrecreation.org.uk/lo ... zDSt4.dpuf
rlhttps://www.sportandrecreation.org.uk/lobbying-and-campaigning/consultations/05-06-2013/community-amateur-sports-clubs-schemerl
Have you seen the attached?

This part especially...

Level of social (ie non-sporting) income: This will effectively limit the amount of social income (eg bar and restaurant income, venue hire etc) that can be generated by a club. Different sports may be affected to varying degrees by these proposals but some clubs could potentially be adversely affected (although ultimately there should be the option to establish a trading subsidiary to enable all clubs to remain in the scheme). Sport will also need to be aware of plans to define a social member and a guest for the purposes of the scheme. - See more at: www.sportandrecreation.org.uk/lo ... zDSt4.dpuf


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e-mail sent to w*gan mbc.

Keep fighting all at Leigh East.

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If you look at the Wards represented on Wigan Council you can identify about ten that must have Centurions fans living in them, namely:- Leigh East, Leigh South, Leigh West, Astley/Mosley Common, Atherleigh, Atherton, Hindley, Hindley Green, Tyldesley and Lowton East. This means that there are thirty councillors that can be approached, these councillors hold surgeries to discuss problems with their constituents. So get mithering.

Interestingly Councillor Cunliffe (Leigh East) is a member of the Cabinet and Councillor Whiteside (Leigh West) is Chairman, Children & Young Peoples Scrutiny Committee, not forgetting the big boss himself, Lord Smith allegedly represents Leigh West.

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Quote: reffy "If you look at the Wards represented on Wigan Council you can identify about ten that must have Centurions fans living in them, namely

Agree totally, get these people questioned or asking questions.

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I have just read the twitter reply from WMBC in which they state that it is the Councils intention to put Leigh Sporting Village PLC in charge of operating the bar in the club.
This statement has clearly been made by persons who have no idea of how the Licensing regulations work.
Leigh East Social Club operates under a Club Premises certificate ( formally a Registration Certificate ). This is not a Licence and the premises are not Licenced Premises. It is therefore not possible for WMBC or anybody else for that matter to take over the bar as it stands. In order to do this the Council will have to apply for a Licence in order to sell alcohol from these premises. Leigh East do not sell alcohol they supply it to their members and guests under the provision of a Registration Certificate. You need a licence to sell alcohol and Leigh East do not have one.

In order to obtain a licence public notices have to be given, ie local press, and other legal proccedures followed. This is to allow the public to make objections if they wish. The club would then become a pub in effect if the Councils application was successful. There is a new pub less that 200 yards from the club, a hotel and several licensed bars in the stadium why do we need another licensed premises in this small area.
I can certainly foresee several hundred at the very least lodging objections to this application.

I also see that the Council, in their reply, making reference to the club making substantial annual profits. I also read somewhere amongst the numerous posts on this topic that the Council advised the club that it should be run on a commercial basis. A registered club cannot be run on a commercial basis as this is one of the qualifications needed for registration. All the club proceeds belong to the members of the club, to be used for the benefit of the members and it is for the membership to decide how this is done but it is not to be done for commercial purposes. The way the proceeds are used is of no concern to WMBC or anybody else.

Leigh Sporting Village Plc could not obtain a Registration certificate to run this bar and they could not use the certificate of Leigh Easts. As I said they would have to obtain a licence.

This decision has been taken by persons who have no idea idea of the licensing regulatuions in relation to registered clubs. It is not a sensible decision in my opinion and one that could prove costly for the ratepayers of Leigh and Wigan. I can see very few, if any, locals using the bar if the council succeed with his application

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If they succeed I'm sure everyone will boycott it and we can make sure opposing ams visiting get the message too .

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Don't the LSV run the bars now at the stadium? If so it is all classed as the same site so they will just add the Easts bar to the others.

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They must be really thick or desperate or even worse, think that Easts don't know what they are doing and will just roll over, to have missed something like that. But like I put in that PM Keith, the underfloor heating thing is an absolute joke. Why are they so determined to get Easts out. It really is starting to grind at me now. How can they be so incompetant to carry on with these demands and threats thinking that people will not question their motives or the outcomes.

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Swindon? LSV are desperate!

I signed last night, the kids did Leigh East and the town proud. Not sure if they had been told what to say or we're genuine with what they were saying but it was certainly hitting home.

'please don't let them close our club'
'will you sign our petition, Wigan council want to take my club away'

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This is what we are up against ,,,,,,,, this is reply from parliamentary group.


Thank you for your email of 10 June to the Rt Hon Hugh Robertson MP, regarding the campaign to save East Leigh Rugby Club, and I have been asked to respond on behalf of the Minister. We do sympathise with the situation you describe with the East Leigh Clubhouse. This of course comes at a time when local authorities are having to tighten their belts considerably. However, this is not an issue which central Government can become involved in.



Decisions about leisure facilities rest with the local council and Ministers cannot intervene directly or influence the decision-making processes of local authorities.

The Government would like every community to have access to as wide a range of sports facilities as possible. However, it is critical that local authorities plan strategically for the future, to ensure that all community needs are catered for and the right facilities are in the right places.



If you feel that your local council is not dealing with these issues correctly you could use the council’s own complaint procedures. You may also wish to seek advice from the Local Government Ombudsman. The website details are:

www.lgo.org.uk/ and the LGO Advice Team numbers are 0300 061 0614 or 0845 602 1983.



You may also like to know that there are many funding agencies, both at a national and local level, which can help your club achieve its ambitions on the pitch and within the local community. Further details are available on the RFU website at this link:



www.rfu.com/managingrugby/clubde ... ngagencies



I suggest that you enlist the support of your constituency MP the RT Hon Andy Burnham to support your campaign.



Kind Regards,

Syed Ali

Ministerial Support Team
This is what we are up against ,,,,,,,, this is reply from parliamentary group.


Thank you for your email of 10 June to the Rt Hon Hugh Robertson MP, regarding the campaign to save East Leigh Rugby Club, and I have been asked to respond on behalf of the Minister. We do sympathise with the situation you describe with the East Leigh Clubhouse. This of course comes at a time when local authorities are having to tighten their belts considerably. However, this is not an issue which central Government can become involved in.



Decisions about leisure facilities rest with the local council and Ministers cannot intervene directly or influence the decision-making processes of local authorities.

The Government would like every community to have access to as wide a range of sports facilities as possible. However, it is critical that local authorities plan strategically for the future, to ensure that all community needs are catered for and the right facilities are in the right places.



If you feel that your local council is not dealing with these issues correctly you could use the council’s own complaint procedures. You may also wish to seek advice from the Local Government Ombudsman. The website details are:

www.lgo.org.uk/ and the LGO Advice Team numbers are 0300 061 0614 or 0845 602 1983.



You may also like to know that there are many funding agencies, both at a national and local level, which can help your club achieve its ambitions on the pitch and within the local community. Further details are available on the RFU website at this link:



www.rfu.com/managingrugby/clubde ... ngagencies



I suggest that you enlist the support of your constituency MP the RT Hon Andy Burnham to support your campaign.



Kind Regards,

Syed Ali

Ministerial Support Team


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Yeah - I'm sure The RFU will back this campaign to the hilt!! icon_rolleyes.gif

Some tory old boy will have seen the words 'amateur' and 'rugby', got all dewy eyed remembering the good old days, and thought the chinless wonders at 'Twickers' could help out!!

Isn't there an All Party Rugby League Paliamentary Group? (you'd hope Mr. Burnham was an active member!) - could they not be contacted to lend weight to the campaign?

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Quote: Walt Mooney Fan Club "Isn't there an All Party Rugby League Paliamentary Group? (you'd hope Mr. Burnham was an active member!) - could they not be contacted to lend weight to the campaign?'"

Yes there is and AB is a member, their chairman is Greg Mulholland

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I doubt anything will be forthcoming from the All Party Rugby League Parliamentary Group, I have just looked them up and find that Lord Smith of Wigan is their treasurer.

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