And what influence on that can we have ?

Stability and growth are our problems to be solved , what others do is irrelevant

By focusing on others you can lose the target you desire

Not denying its difficult , but it is simple in that it is and should be the primary function of the clubs administration once the recruitment is complete

In theory we will lose 50 fans every year , replace them with 25 and we decline , replace them with 100 and we build

You don't 'focus' on others - you 'focus' on yourself. But surely you have to be aware of all the others, and what they are doing? After all, we are in direct competition with Toronto, and all the other Championship teams.

James Dyson is, presumably, obsessively focused on his range of vacuum cleaners, and aims to be ahead of his competitors at all times. But, in order to do that, he has to be very aware of what they are up to.

Anyway, if we are, as has been suggested, awaiting the removal of Toronto Wolfpack from the Championship, before we reveal our future hand, I would argue that we consider what they do, highly relevant.

All sounds good buggy, but do you think the club are gong to take your route ?? Are you volunteering to undertake the process for them, two weeks ago we couldn’t fund a team - we barely did it when we were “flush” not likely to start now are we

Once again , we are in competition with Toronto and the other Championship clubs for 80 minutes a couple of times each season ( 3 with Widnes this year ) , we are however in competition with Wigan,Wire,Saints,ManU,Man City, Liverpool , Cinema's , bowling alleys and plenty of other stuff 52 weeks of the year

Probably not

Would love to if the money was set aside

We didn't do it at all when we were flush unfortunately

The marketing budget should be set , and ' ring fenced ' before the playing budget

Hope he proves me wrong .

Taking a step backwards isn't a bad thing. I'll buy a ticket to support what's on the park, you can stick with your own opinion. Think we've all heard enough ambition talk off field over the past few years. Personally we are still in business and that's what counts.
DB's ultimate goal was SL. That challenge has been accomplished with failure to back it up last season. Don't start preaching what fans should do,when the damage done is still fresh in peoples minds.

If fans take a back seat, we have no club. I was always taught to lead by example, not hide. You again make speculative remarks, which are really nothing more than excuses to hide facts.

You want fans to back the ambition of the owner or future owner?

I understand that. The same thing can be said for any of the clubs/attractions you quote.

My point is that we are also in opposition with the Championship clubs at all times. What they do definitely influences our future - for sure, what Toronto, London, Halifax, Toulouse and Featherstone did in 2018, spectacularly influenced our future. As you have said, one more win would have secured a Qualifier position for us - but one more defeat for any of them would have achieved the same for us.

Very true Allan , and for the coaching staff and players , from Monday doing the previous games video session till final whistle on Sunday , their priority is that weeks opposition , however the rest of the club dont have influence on that , the only way they can influence that is to concentrate on raising the clubs profile and connection with the community , which in turn will raise the clubs income , providing the coaching staff with more and better resources the following year

As a town we don't and never will have the corporate support that the bigger towns will have , we do however have a 12,000 capacity stadium , which we should aim to fill every game no matter what level we are at , it's that simple

A few observations

1.2013 we were down to 1100 paying fans with a team challenging for top spot - the club failed to pay its PT players on a pittance and had a tax bill unpaid that was about to wind the club up
2. A rallying call went out for fans to provide some cash initially then direction to take the club forward - I do not recall you at those meetings and the level of cash asked wasn't great
3. The change in strategy and on field success drew in new fans, to such a level that our 2017 demotion drew a greater gate than our '82 success. Derek funded that period, he put his hand up then really put his hand up
4. Failure to Back it by DB in 2018 - that is just about the most clueless comment ever seen on this board. We entered the season odds on favourites because of how he backed up the relegation with the squad assembled - is that too hard for some to digest?
5. Due to the shocking failure of 2018 we needed to shed a million pound off the playing budget the option was administration, a position that would allow the creditors some tax benefits on what was owed, ie DB,
6. We failed to attract any serious investment after DB offered his shares and to wipe the debt off. I spoke to a few local lads who done good - not interested - common theme why put my hard earned in to attract abuse, rather sponsor games and have a box. Nobody puts in £1.4m in order to lose it like we did.
7. We are where we are. We have been here before and will be here again, the stakeholders of any sports club are its fans - that will never change - today I will renew our 2 season tickets whilst buying a 3rd as a Christmas present for a PT fan. At the weekend I spoke to a few lads about doing something away from the club which may or may not take off. I am a huge advocate of fan ownership, I believe we should have a share issue to spread the burden and create the financial clout to have a real pop at SL again because to do so will require significant input above what we can realistically achieve via gate and sponsorship.

Liked this post after the first paragraph

While a fan owned club is a brilliant idea , it is completely unworkable

Sorry Neil