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| That was tried some years ago but the membership decided to go with giving it to players contracts, that's when I pulled out. If it was to go back to that then I for one would re introduce my subscription, until then I will give time and effort and raffle prizes but not cash.
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| I cant believe we as Leythers dont all want the same thing ,A SUCCESSFUL LEIGH TEAM AND CLUB,the only way we will get this is Bonding together ,stop the personal sniping ,and backbiting ,and do whatever we can to help our CLUB AND TEAM.
To me Lynda ,Derek ,Tipster Ste ,Fred P , Frank B ,and the Majority of posters on here would all move heaven and earth for Leigh ,another guy i know going through personal hell at the moment still finds time to raise cash for the club ,tome Leythers are the TOPS ,alwayswill be ,lets come together ,put all this mudslinging behind us and make the Centurions and LISA successful .
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| Quote: FredParky "That was tried some years ago but the membership decided to go with giving it to players contracts, that's when I pulled out. If it was to go back to that then I for one would re introduce my subscription, until then I will give time and effort and raffle prizes but not cash.'"
It should never be set in stone for me Fred. The constitution should allow for a changeable mandate and provide a set of operating rules as to how that would be achieved.
At the moment, it's cash injection that's required. In future, LISA might want to refocus its cash into community and youth based projects. To change the focus would be a business decision that would need to be approved according to the operating rules.
If LISA gets its 1000 members that's 60k per year administered exactly how, by who? Needs absolute transparency.
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| I agree Mr Waterfield, it does need to be flexible and based on the wishes of the members. I don't know how it currently operates but for example, I have never once seen a set of financial statements for LISA - its probably because I am overseas. I would expect the LISA committee would do anything to demonstrate their financial probity, which we of course don't doubt for a minute. As a Chartered Accountant I would be happy to advise on such matters.
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| I think the constitution does allow for change its the members who don't like change.
Peter (the treasurer) does a great job in administrating LISA financies and his books are always on hand for anyone to inspect and he gives a thorough report at the AGM's, he is a chartered accountant and a well respected and known figure in the town and has a practice in Church St.
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| His son is also a SL referee - but we do not hold that against him
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| Good to hear Fred, looks like all we need is to ensure members get the financials as a matter of course and not just the AGM. Of course that involves both time and money, unless you just put it on the website, which would be fine by me.
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| Quote: waterfield's finest "LOL all you like (and there you go again with the implications of a lack of thoroughness that you really oughtn’t do as my leader).
I have seen this before but that simply says the purpose is simply…."to raise money for LRLFC”.
Sorry but that doesn’t do much for me (which is perhaps why I haven’t signed up until D-day).
An example taken from the Warrington site which I might have fallen for a lot earlier….. (not saying we copy, but think about the aims, the interface with the club, the visibility of funding and decisions etc)
]The aim of ###### is to support the development, coaching and
promotion of young local players at all levels. This includes aiding local junior
sides, as well as Service Area Teams, right through to fully professional
Wolves’ players.
Do you know, what I feel like saying ,that's it, how pathetic,someone has to have a go, they just can't help themselves,
I didn't make up the mandate, I don't care what it says , I know we give money for players contracts .
If any one wants and know how to change it, incorporate big f@@@ off words that mean Jack e that's fine by me , go ahead, then you can bring it to the meeting and good luck getting it passed by all the members.
The bottom line I want a team to support next year, that's the priority, not how Lisa s constitution is worded, we can change that
For gods sake will people stop having a go I'm doing my bl00dy best despite working full time running a businesss and a family.
If anyone can do better nominate themselves on the 22nd by all means!!!!!!!!
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| I don't think anyones having a go Lynda its just that new members are not up to date with the history and constitution of LISA I for one just like the idea of supporting the club in an area where I would know it would do the best especially if the rumours of the good news thats going to come re the future of youth development are true, it would be an exciting time for LISA and its members to be involved with that aspect of the club.
But that doesnt stop me assisting where and when necessary and I for one would never blame the committee for a decision passed by its members
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| Quote: mapleyther "Good to hear Fred, looks like all we need is to ensure members get the financials as a matter of course and not just the AGM. Of course that involves both time and money, unless you just put it on the website, which would be fine by me.'"
A copy of the financials is available at every agm always has been!!!!
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| Quote: mapleyther "Good to hear Fred, looks like all we need is to ensure members get the financials as a matter of course and not just the AGM. Of course that involves both time and money, unless you just put it on the website, which would be fine by me.'"
A copy of the financials is available at every agm always has been!!!!
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| Quote: FredParky "I don't think anyones having a go Lynda its just that new members are not up to date with the history and constitution of LISA I for one just like the idea of supporting the club in an area where I would know it would do the best especially if the rumours of the good news thats going to come re the future of youth development are true, it would be an exciting time for LISA and its members to be involved with that aspect of the club.
But that doesnt stop me assisting where and when necessary and I for one would never blame the committee for a decision passed by its members'"
But Fred read waterfields finest first line that a dig at me, how can I be to blame when I didn't write the damn mandate.
As I said everyone attend the AGM and we can discuss it but to bring it up on here and have a go is totally out of order!
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| If you ask me I'd don't care where my money is used by the club!
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| Lynda - I am sure you are not suggesting I get on a plane and fly 3,000 miles specifically to get a copy of the financial statements!
Lynda - you have done and are doing a fantastic job, as a number of people on here have commented. You've taken on far more than one person can be expected to do. You should be given the freedom of the borough in my opinion! You are irreplaceable and should not/cannot be replaced.
Its hard to separate out those who are just wind-up merchants on this board and some who have a constructive contribution to make. But let's not throw the baby out with the bath water, please. It may be that working on the infrastructure of the LISA organization could be of benefit. That may not be your forte and thats fine - for others its right up their alley. I think one of the tasks going forward will be to try and expand the active contributors to LISA, whether they sit on a committee or note to deal with some of these bureaucratic matters as some might see it.....and the AGM itself is probably not the time to raise some of these issues, prep work would need to be done..
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| Quote: Dick Jones "If you ask me I'd don't care where my money is used by the club!'"
I am with you on that one Lynda, let them use it as they see fit, in my opinion of course.
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