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In pre-season, we all read what Harrison Hansen said about training being tougher than the previous season, and that they would benefit from it. Yet some simple stats suggest we fade alarmingly in the second half:

v Wigan: 1st half draw10-10; 2nd half lost 4-12
v Saints: 1st half lost 10-12; 2nd half lost 8-10
v Toronto 1st half won 12-10; 2nd half lost 0-24
v Batley 1st half won 18-6; 2nd half won 16-0
v Barrow 1st half won 20-12; 2nd half lost 0-12
v Toulouse 1st half won 14-6; 2nd half lost 12-26

Four of those games have been against fellow full-time teams, but the second half against part-time Barrow was an eye-opener.

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I'd say a big fat yes to fitness being an issue. As it was last season too I might add.

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Well, for me, it's either fitness, or what's being said at half-time! (in both dressing rooms)

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Probably both.

If players are not physically fit then they'll struggle mentally too. Like not being able to take on board instructions or even just to keep hold of the damn ball.

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Yes, they are not fit enough to play error-ridden rugby with poor completion rates and too many penalties conceded, and expect to win games. A SL side would probably get away with it in the Championship, more often than not, but we wont.
The second half performances this season are proof of that.

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[i:5a56um9q]Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting.[/i:5a56um9q] [b:5a56um9q]George Orwell [/b:5a56um9q] [i:5a56um9q]There are none so blind as those who will not see. [/i:5a56um9q]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_42910.jpg

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Not fit? I thought these men were supposed to be the dog's gonads and the answer to all our prayers? They're professional sportsmen for God's sake, if they're not fit they should be fined or dropped or sacked.

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As an outsider we, at Widnes, look a lot fitter this year under our new fitness coaching team, whereas you seem to be tailing of at the end of games.

The bloke who was with us last year, and is now your head of performance, Chris Baron, looks less fit than me and I've not exercised since the early 90's.

Surely your head of performance/fitness should at least look the part?

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If it’s not fitness it might of been the coach losing the changing room this is worse as players won’t play for you trying get you the boot. I bet Cunningham sat there quiet today in the meeting thinking hope I dodge this bullet here. Cunningham going to have to let purtil and ando do it there way if he wants his head off the chopping block.

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Fitness to me looks like it is an issue.
Thankfully it should be one of the easier things to fix.

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Quote: mish "Not fit? I thought these men were supposed to be the dog's gonads and the answer to all our prayers? They're professional sportsmen for God's sake, if they're not fit they should be fined or dropped or sacked.'"


They are struggling badly in the last ten minutes - Toulouse actually scored their last 16 points in the final 8 minutes - and look shattered. Maybe the pre-season conditioning that was raved about, wasn't all it was cracked up to be? Or maybe their confidence is shot, and that's why they fade away?

The Toulouse lads were out on their feet at the half time hooter, (two or three of them struggled to get off the pitch) yet somehow were completely revived in the final forty minutes, cut out the errors and eradicated their indiscipline. I'd love to know what was said in the respective dressing rooms at half time, or what was put in their respective half time 'brews'! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Alan "They are struggling badly in the last ten minutes - Toulouse actually scored their last 16 points in the final 8 minutes - and look shattered. Maybe the pre-season conditioning that was raved about, wasn't all it was cracked up to be? Or maybe their confidence is shot, and that's why they fade away?

The Toulouse lads were out on their feet at the half time hooter, (two or three of them struggled to get off the pitch) yet somehow were completely revived in the final forty minutes, cut out the errors and eradicated their indiscipline. I'd love to know what was said in the respective dressing rooms at half time, or what was put in their respective half time 'brews'!
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i agree with all of the above but would also add that regardless of fitness if you are without the ball, giving penalties away, backing up on D, you will always struggle.

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Quote: Alan "In pre-season, we all read what Harrison Hansen said about training being tougher than the previous season, and that they would benefit from it. Yet some simple stats suggest we fade alarmingly in the second halfv Featherstone 1st half won 20-14; 2nd half lost 10-24

And so the trend continues! If only the games were played over 40 minutes!
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I think losing our half back today was a probably a factor but the players look like they haven't have a Pre season with some only just showing signs of getting up to speed.
The coaching appointment will be critical.

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