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Attract the missing 400 fans from last season or the 1000 from 2 seasons ago. Asking LISA or the Touchdown Club to continually cough up more isn't the answer.

I've said for 18 months the hike of £110 to £200 has turned people away from watching in a league that means nothing.

So Mr Freer and Mr Barton what is your plan to get people through the gate? Do you have one?

It's a genuine question as I can only 2 solutions from our current board :-

1) Ask LISA or Touchdown Club for more

2) Increase the admission even more

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Quote: Tipster Ste "Attract the missing 400 fans from last season or the 1000 from 2 seasons ago. Asking LISA or the Touchdown Club to continually cough up more isn't the answer.

I've said for 18 months the hike of £110 to £200 has turned people away from watching in a league that means nothing.

So Mr Freer and Mr Barton what is your plan to get people through the gate? Do you have one?

It's a genuine question as I can only 2 solutions from our current board

With no p&r etc it is difficult to get new fans interest in the game. The question I would ask is - if it was £5 to watch leigh how many people would turn up? The chairman needs to evaluate admission price with likely attendance and make a decision.

The club perhaps need to reduce admin prices next year but this may also mean reducing costs which would result in the team budget being cut. Would fans be happy with finishing 7th / 8thin the division?

In terms of a marketing strategy I agree that there doesn't seem to be one. Are there any fans involved in marketing who could help the club with their ideas (Maurice springs to mind). The ideas need to be built around the budget available though. It's no use suggesting that that the club spend thousands they don't have.

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Quote: Chancellor Palpatine "With no p&r etc it is difficult to get new fans interest in the game. The question I would ask is - if it was £5 to watch leigh how many people would turn up? The chairman needs to evaluate admission price with likely attendance and make a decision.

The club perhaps need to reduce admin prices next year but this may also mean reducing costs which would result in the team budget being cut. Would fans be happy with finishing 7th / 8thin the division?

In terms of a marketing strategy I agree that there doesn't seem to be one. Are there any fans involved in marketing who could help the club with their ideas (Maurice springs to mind). The ideas need to be built around the budget available though. It's no use suggesting that that the club spend thousands they don't have.'"



What ' BUDGET ' ? , they dont have one

Reduce prices and you will lose money , watching YOUR team/club is not a money issue , it is all about getting the 50,000 citizens of Leigh who have never set foot into the LSV to sample the match day experience , it was built as a COMMUNITY venue , so lets start to get the community IN it , it really is that simple , but it wont work overnight and the longer you wait before starting to do it , the more damage is being done , and closer to the point of no return you get

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Quote: Starbug "What ' BUDGET ' ? , they dont have one

Reduce prices and you will lose money , watching YOUR team/club is not a money issue , it is all about getting the 50,000 citizens of Leigh who have never set foot into the LSV to sample the match day experience , it was built as a COMMUNITY venue , so lets start to get the community IN it , it really is that simple , but it wont work overnight and the longer you wait before starting to do it , the more damage is being done , and closer to the point of no return you get'"



While we are into correcting mis-information, the club DOES have a painstakingly calculated Budget, these days. Costs are fairly easy to calculate but the problem of course is on the income side of that budget. As soon as gates, sponsorship, advertising etc. fall below expectations, something needs to be done. And that's where we're at now.

By the way, is there a worthwhile prize to be won, for answering the question you keep asking? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Alan "While we are into correcting mis-information, the club DOES have a painstakingly calculated Budget, these days. Costs are fairly easy to calculate but the problem of course is on the income side of that budget. As soon as gates, sponsorship, advertising etc. fall below expectations, something needs to be done. And that's where we're at now.

By the way, is there a worthwhile prize to be won, for answering the question you keep asking?
Read the post I was replying to Alan , it states the ' marketing strategy ' and ' budget available '

Which I think gives you the answer everybody seems to be scared of stating

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Quote: Starbug "What ' BUDGET ' ? , they dont have one

Reduce prices and you will lose money , watching YOUR team/club is not a money issue , it is all about getting the 50,000 citizens of Leigh who have never set foot into the LSV to sample the match day experience , it was built as a COMMUNITY venue , so lets start to get the community IN it , it really is that simple , but it wont work overnight and the longer you wait before starting to do it , the more damage is being done , and closer to the point of no return you get'"


Agreed with reducing prices.

Also agreed with getting the 50,000 citizens of leigh into the lsv. If it was free how many would turn up even if we were in sl. We have to understand now that rl is a major sport in the eyes of the youngsters. They are much more interest in football and computer games not to mention Facebook and twitter.

Anyone who could successfully get the younger generation to watch rugby league regularly deserves a medal & the job of CEO of the rfl.

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Quote: Starbug "Read the post I was replying to Alan , it states the ' marketing strategy ' and ' budget available '

Which I think gives you the answer everybody seems to be scared of stating'"


Drat - I did know the answer! What was the prize? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Alan "Drat - I did know the answer! What was the prize?
So why is everybody scared of actually stating the obvious ? , a bit like the ' Kings new clothes ' , everybody knows whats wrong , but all are scared of breaking rank

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Quote: Tipster Ste "Attract the missing 400 fans from last season or the 1000 from 2 seasons ago. Asking LISA or the Touchdown Club to continually cough up more isn't the answer.

I've said for 18 months the hike of £110 to £200 has turned people away from watching in a league that means nothing.

So Mr Freer and Mr Barton what is your plan to get people through the gate? Do you have one?

It's a genuine question as I can only 2 solutions from our current board

The thing is Ste , it isn't 400 or 1,000 , its the missing 10,500 we want , and we wont get them chasing 400 , or 4,000 , we have 40,000 to go after on our doorstep , time to start inviting them , after all , it is THEIR stadium

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Quote: Chancellor Palpatine "Agreed with reducing prices.

Also agreed with getting the 50,000 citizens of leigh into the lsv. If it was free how many would turn up even if we were in sl. We have to understand now that rl is a major sport in the eyes of the youngsters. They are much more interest in football and computer games not to mention Facebook and twitter.

Anyone who could successfully get the younger generation to watch rugby league regularly deserves a medal & the job of CEO of the rfl.'"


Not many I admit

I assume you missed out the ' not ' , and yes footy is the big draw , but how many actually attend ? , no reason why they cant watch the footy on TV but still watch ' live ' RL , as for twitter and facebook , they are there to be exploited , they are not competition

Its time the RFL appointed an official ' Championship Director ' with the health and progression of the lower tiers as their only priority regardless of SL and the amatuer game

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Quote: Starbug "The thing is Ste , it isn't 400 or 1,000 , its the missing 10,500 we want , and we wont get them chasing 400 , or 4,000 , we have 40,000 to go after on our doorstep , time to start inviting them , after all , it is THEIR stadium'"


If it is truly a community stadium the council need to have a community day at one if the games were anyone who lives within the Wigan borough gets on free. This obviously needs to be promoted effectively. The club would be a few thousand pounds down on the gate, but should be compensated from lsv due to increased food & drink sales.

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Quote: Chancellor Palpatine "If it is truly a community stadium the council need to have a community day at one if the games were anyone who lives within the Wigan borough gets on free. This obviously needs to be promoted effectively. The club would be a few thousand pounds down on the gate, but should be compensated from lsv due to increased food & drink sales.'"


An incredibly risky strategy to attempt , fill it and the benifits could be fantastic , still only draw 2,000 and you damage the club drastically

By all means offer the ' invite ' by way of a " we'd like to invite everybody in the town to 1 game every season , please e. mail us to obtain your free family ticket to a future game announcement in the press , all subject to ' conditions ' of course , but then the hard work starts , it involves giving them extra reasons to attend via schools and community programmes

You then need to communicate with your existing support base the reasons you have to make the offer , very difficult as the mentality of the fans is exactly that , a ' Fan ' , they expect everybody to want to come and watch already , and to pay for the priviledge

But chasing 400 will get you 20 if you are lucky , and by that time you will have lost another 40

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Quote: Starbug "An incredibly risky strategy to attempt , fill it and the benifits could be fantastic , still only draw 2,000 and you damage the club drastically

By all means offer the ' invite ' by way of a " we'd like to invite everybody in the town to 1 game every season , please e. mail us to obtain your free family ticket to a future game announcement in the press , all subject to ' conditions ' of course , but then the hard work starts , it involves giving them extra reasons to attend via schools and community programmes

You then need to communicate with your existing support base the reasons you have to make the offer , very difficult as the mentality of the fans is exactly that , a ' Fan ' , they expect everybody to want to come and watch already , and to pay for the priviledge

But chasing 400 will get you 20 if you are lucky , and by that time you will have lost another 40'"


Agreed it's risky but it would show the true support from the community for a rugby league club in leigh. If it wasn't 't forthcoming with the community day then the club should seriously reduce their aspirations. We should then only spend what we take. If that means championship one then so be it. The town would have made their decision.

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In reply to the OP this was the point I was making on Friday however, certain people seem to think that just saying 'come and watch us play or we won't have a club' is the answer' which it simply isn't.

Partly because if they have stopped watching this will not encourage them back and partly because 95% of the local area will more thank likely be completley oblivious to the fact this message is being sent out.

They need to activley target people but for whatever reason they are not and just want to rely on the current fans bringin a friend and raising next to nothing from a beetle drive

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Quote: Leyther Always "In reply to the OP this was the point I was making on Friday however, certain people seem to think that just saying 'come and watch us play or we won't have a club' is the answer' which it simply isn't.

Partly because if they have stopped watching this will not encourage them back and partly because 95% of the local area will more thank likely be completley oblivious to the fact this message is being sent out.

They need to activley target people but for whatever reason they are not and just want to rely on the current fans bringin a friend and raising next to nothing from a beetle drive'"



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