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| 40 points to the good after 30 or so minutes, lost the next 50 mins by 18 to 10, just shows how deficient our on field generals are, Riddy is now to slow to catch a cold, Reynolds we could be generous and say he needs more game time, but I saw nothing to convince me he has improoved at all since he left, totally missed Greg at full back he could have had a hand in another 30 points given the same ball Brierley had, and Junior Sa'u no wonder a club needing players let him go, he is absolutely hopeless as a centre, don't get your hopes up guy's for the play offs we just ain't good enough.
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| Pathetic Harry.. Joint second with a points difference Leigh would never catch.
Well played Leigh ...
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| Quote: atomic "Pathetic Harry.. Joint second with a points difference Leigh would never catch.
Well played Leigh ...'"
It's not just about the points difference Atomic, for seasoned professionals it was a pretty poor effort after the first 1/2 hour there was no one capable of taking that game by the scruff of the neck and commanding the structure of play. I will bet that John Duffy is more in line with my thoughts than your "Well played Leigh"
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| Quote: Harry Stottle "40 points to the good after 30 or so minutes, lost the next 50 mins by 18 to 10, just shows how deficient our on field generals are, Riddy is now to slow to catch a cold, Reynolds we could be generous and say he needs more game time, but I saw nothing to convince me he has improoved at all since he left, totally missed Greg at full back he could have had a hand in
another 30 points given the same ball Brierley had, and Junior Sa'u no wonder a club needing players let him go, he is absolutely hopeless as a centre, don't get your hopes up guy's for the play offs we just ain't good enough.'"
Translation,
ii don’t like Ridyard, Reynolds, Brierley and Sa’u but I absolutely lurve McNally who would have won the game single handed if he had been playing.
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| Sounds like we took the game by “the scruff of the neck” in the first 30 minutes so who was responsible for that ?
50 points scored, a rise to clear in 3rd and a top 5 made more certain.
edit: top 5 made certain
All done with injuries and new players fitting into our system. This has been and still is an enjoyable and unexpected season.
My hopes have already been surpassed, I will continue to enjoy.
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| I suppose that, after the ridiculous first 30 minutes, all our expectations were sky high, and yes, we probably should have gone on to score 80. However, the inevitable complacency set in, Rochdale somehow managed to lift their heads and went on to outscore us over the last 50 minutes, and thwart us in defence.
We are still not firing on all cylinders, but we have moved up to equal second and should finish third - if we get our next two home matches right!
So, it's not all gloom and doom, surely?
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| Quote: Alan "I suppose that, after the ridiculous first 30 minutes, all our expectations were sky high, and yes, we probably should have gone on to score 80. However, the inevitable complacency set in, Rochdale somehow managed to lift their heads and went on to outscore us over the last 50 minutes, and thwart us in defence.
We are still not firing on all cylinders, but we have moved up to equal second and should finish third - if we get our next two home matches right!
So, it's not all gloom and doom, surely?
To be pedantic, the competition rules mean that you are currently 3rd not equal second.
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| Go and watch The Pies instead Harry.
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| Quote: Alan "I suppose that, after the ridiculous first 30 minutes, all our expectations were sky high, and yes, we probably should have gone on to score 80. However, the inevitable complacency set in, Rochdale somehow managed to lift their heads and went on to outscore us over the last 50 minutes, and thwart us in defence.
We are still not firing on all cylinders, but we have moved up to equal second and should finish third - if we get our next two home matches right!
So, it's not all gloom and doom, surely?
If we come third I’d rest as many players as possible for the 2 v 3 match
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| It was always going to be difficult to maintain the intensity of those opening 30 mins. The game was won and the points were already in the bag. The referee then also became more whistle happy at that point which did not help our rhythm.
Did we put the cue back in the rack earlier than we should? Probably, Yes. Would Duffy be happy about that ? Probably not. Points difference could separate 2nd to 5th. Overall Would he take where we sit tonight from where he started ? For sure.
I do agree that McNally is a player you do miss when he is not in the team.
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| Quote: Mr Dog "To be pedantic, the competition rules mean that you are currently 3rd not equal second.'"
Please feel free to be pedantic. In a similar vein, I also state that we should finish third.
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| Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "It was always going to be difficult to maintain the intensity of those opening 30 mins. The game was won and the points were already in the bag. The referee then also became more whistle happy at that point which did not help our rhythm.
Did we put the cue back in the rack earlier than we should? Probably, Yes. Would Duffy be happy about that ? Probably not. Points difference could separate 2nd to 5th. Overall Would he take where we sit tonight from where he started ? For sure.
I do agree that McNally is a player you do miss when he is not in the team.'"
Agreed Harry (as usual - well almost as usual! )
Points difference may well not come into it for us, now. We'll not catch Toulouse on PD, and we probably won't catch Fev. (they increased theirs again today) We are way in excess of York. So, the key for us is results - we have to beat Widnes and York, at home.
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| Quote: Budgiezilla "Go and watch The Pies instead Harry.'"
I saw you in the bar pre match wearing a red Leigh Centurions tshirt. By the time I got over to say Hello you had gone.
May be next time.
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| Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "I saw you in the bar pre match wearing a red Leigh Centurions tshirt. By the time I got over to say Hello you had gone.
May be next time.'"
Blimey....I'm famous !
Yeah, next time H....
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| Quote: Budgiezilla "Go and watch The Pies instead Harry.'"
I'm a bit to dyed in the wool to do that Budgie, first game I attended at Hilton Park was in 1959, and I have been going ever since, along the way I have seen many more downs than up's but still keep obtaining my season ticket and getting along to more away games than I miss. Leigh RLFC has given me immeasurable pleasure it has also had me sinking to the depths of despair but I wouldn't change any of it.
Now back to yesterday, I as everyone else who cares anything at all about the club back in Oct/Nov last year, I would have took anything just to put a team on the field, what the club has done has been a joy to behold from grouping a load of local lads and being ably assisted by Saints (albeit if I was asked I would never have had the DR system for any club in the first place) and what we have acheived is totally beyond expectations and we have got ourselves into a position were we may very well make the rest of the Rugby League sit up and notice, BUT in order to acheive that we have to use each game as a learning curve, and in my opinion we have learned a lot from yesterday, sorry but I am not taking the complacency approach and making excuses or saying"well played Leigh". For 30 mins what we did was exactly as we should have done to the bottom placed team, what transpired for the next 50 was quite simply not good enough, we needed to keep up that effort, momentum and superiority and not lose it on the scoreboard by 18 - 10 to I say again the bottom placed club in the league, and those who are employed to guide the team around the field were the bigges culprits of that lack lustre 50mins.
The fans can make any excuse they wish, but it is simply not good enough for professional player's. In the games to come they will have to keep up the effort for the full 80 just as good and successful teams do each and every game, athletes who run marathons dont train by running mile races, it is all about conditioning, and that is to condition yourself to play at your 100% effort for your team mates and yourself for how many minutes you are on the field, anything less will win you nothing.
We are actually blessed with one player who typifies all that I have said and he is in my opinion our stand out player this season being Luke Douglas, watch him closely he never gives anything up, he not only drives the ball in he is the forward willing to chase back and never stop, it is all about mindset and attitude, he was brought up with it and has carried it on at Saints or for Scotland and most certainly at Leigh when he may have considerd he has earned himself a rest, his absence was most notable yesterday, and if his teammates displayed the same attitude that he displays, they would not have los the last 50 mins of the game yesterday in the manner they did.
Attitude must be the primary concern for John Duffy, he had to kick a door down last week v Swinton at half time to get his point across, it was evident they took that on board for the first half hour yesterday, then fell back to the first half display of the previous week, perhaps he kicked another door down after the game yesterday, if not he should have done..
As I stated earlier I have seen more downs than ups over the years being a Leigh fan and I have seen some bad teams in the Cherry and White, this team is not one of those, I would not criticise them if I thought they were, if they beleigh've in themselves and play for 80 mins who knows what they can acheive, perhaps John Duffy?
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