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| Strangely quiet on here. Hope you've all managed to find your way home!
I thought we did well, despite the 'nil' scoreline. Maybe the conditions helped, but to restrict Wigan to three tries is no mean feat. Granted, Wigan picked up a raft of injuries, which didn't help their organisation, but even so their defence remained very well organised, especially late on, when we threw everything at them, and the outcome had been decided.
And when you look back at those tries, there wasn't a lot we could do about them. The first came from a freak bounce, when three players collided, chasing Williams's kick, and the other two were down to moments of sheer individual brilliance from Williams.
Granted, the better team deservedly won, but there were still plenty of encouraging signs for us.
Onward and upward!
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| Quote: Alan "Strangely quiet on here. Hope you've all managed to find your way home!
I thought we did well, despite the 'nil' scoreline. Maybe the conditions helped, but to restrict Wigan to three tries is no mean feat. Granted, Wigan picked up a raft of injuries, which didn't help their organisation, but even so their defence remained very well organised, especially late on, when we threw everything at them, and the outcome had been decided.
And when you look back at those tries, there wasn't a lot we could do about them. The first came from a freak bounce, when three players collided, chasing Williams's kick, and the other two were down to moments of sheer individual brilliance from Williams.
Granted, the better team deservedly won, but there were still plenty of encouraging signs for us.
Onward and upward!'"
Thought we did ok last night but worry that we can't score unless we get our forwards close to the line . We seem to be lacking creativity in the final 3rd but saying that we all no that our aim is to stay in this league and on that showing last night I think we will be ok.
Bring on the Ryan b welcome party next week.
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| Where is Charlie. Did he know ?
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| Alan, it served as another game against top-notch opposition under a new team's collective belt. We were nilled but not annihilated. Beaten but not embarrassed. More positives than negatives in Bongser's eye. Yes, Tony, roll on next week. Can't wait!
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| Quote: Alan "Strangely quiet on here. Hope you've all managed to find your way home!
I thought we did well, despite the 'nil' scoreline. Maybe the conditions helped, but to restrict Wigan to three tries is no mean feat. Granted, Wigan picked up a raft of injuries, which didn't help their organisation, but even so their defence remained very well organised, especially late on, when we threw everything at them, and the outcome had been decided.
And when you look back at those tries, there wasn't a lot we could do about them. The first came from a freak bounce, when three players collided, chasing Williams's kick, and the other two were down to moments of sheer individual brilliance from Williams.
Granted, the better team deservedly won, but there were still plenty of encouraging signs for us.
Onward and upward!'"
Showed them too much respect IMO , we really need to believe and have more faith in our abilities , doubt any team will grind their way through Wigan , not enough offloads and too many 5hit or bust plays with us ending up in touch a yard short of the line
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| Thought we lacked ideas when we got in the Pie half and our kicking game was too predictable and didn't apply enough pressure to them. Would Riddy have made the difference? Thought we missed Patterson to. Our forwards matched theirs but the game could have been won in the backs. We just wanted to plough it up the middle when they clearly had issues out wide. We should have took advantage of that situation and got it out wide quicker. Our outside backs are good enough to have taken advantage. All in all, good heart shown from the lads but I went away with the feeling of "what could have been"
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| Quote: GUBRATS "Showed them too much respect IMO , we really need to believe and have more faith in our abilities , doubt any team will grind their way through Wigan , not enough offloads and too many 5hit or bust plays with us ending up in touch a yard short of the line'"
Neil Jukes says much the same, Steve. I guess we are still learning, and that was another notch on a steep learning curve. The conditions didn't allow much ambition and, when Wigan tried to be expansive, they often came unstuck. Whilst our attack never really looked like outwitting them, our defence was very good. Only three tries conceded - one from a freakish collision, on a Wigan kick, and two outstanding plays from Williams. You have to hand it to Wigan's defence too - when the game was dead and buried, we finally put on some good attacking moves, but their defence stayed just as determined, as it had all evening.
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| Quote: the fax in asia "Where is Charlie. Did he know ?'"
Charlie is still here ,I thought our defence last night was good , our attack not so good, having said that Wigan had more ball than us,our forwards worked hard, and Drinky and Reynolds received a lesson on how halfback should play.
At times Wigan's tackling was a bit dubious ,and blokes like Gelling should be sin binned for that type of behavior, I thought Wigan outsmarted us and we will learn a lot from this game,no Leigh player had a bad game,we conceded 3 tries ,not bad saying Wigan had the bulk of possession. Disappointing bit was we never really looked like scoring,but it's a case of get ready now for Friday, a game we can win,I was very impressed with the Leyther following,I'm sure the players were,Cmon you Leythers.
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| Quote: Alan "Neil Jukes says much the same, Steve. I guess we are still learning, and that was another notch on a steep learning curve. The conditions didn't allow much ambition and, when Wigan tried to be expansive, they often came unstuck. Whilst our attack never really looked like outwitting them, our defence was very good. Only three tries conceded - one from a freakish collision, on a Wigan kick, and two outstanding plays from Williams. You have to hand it to Wigan's defence too - when the game was dead and buried, we finally put on some good attacking moves, but their defence stayed just as determined, as it had all evening.'"
At 6-0 Alan I was fine with playing % RL , Wigan were doing the same , once it went to 12 ( in what was obviously going to be a low scoring game ) we had to chance our arm more , but also not waste good field position , apparently 6 goal line repeats to our 1 , we must put the ball over the line and force teams to pick it up
IMO we have nothing to fear from anybody in SL , the natural order of things is gone ATM , Cas have grabbed the nettle and despite having only 2/3 top class players are no better than us , but they believe in themselves
So yes we didn't show our selves up , but neither did we do ourselves justice IMO
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| As has been said above. The difference was George Williams and their excellent defence out wide.
A bit of luck and it could have been a bit closer.
The boys never gave up last night which was good.
If Mr Reffy could please tell me what the correct ruling on the Anthony Gelling incident should be as it was on purpose but I have never seen anything like it before. Me Hicks may have got it right but me it was wrong. Anyway it had no baring on the final result but was just interested.
Looking forward to next Friday already.
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| Quote: TV BOY "As has been said above. The difference was George Williams and their excellent defence out wide.
A bit of luck and it could have been a bit closer.
The boys never gave up last night which was good.
If Mr Reffy could please tell me what the correct ruling on the Anthony Gelling incident should be as it was on purpose but I have never seen anything like it before. Me Hicks may have got it right but me it was wrong. Anyway it had no baring on the final result but was just interested.
Looking forward to next Friday already.'"
" I have never seen anything like it before " ?
Tommy Martyn , ' foot of god ' ?
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| Agree with most of what has been said.
However, to stand a chance against the best teams we need a bit of luck going for us and the penalty count feeling fair - not neccessarily over the full 80, but during crucial stages of the game. Perhaps we haven't quite got it right yet, at least in the eyes of the referees. Wigan were often offside and guilty of lying on (as per usual) but there were periods of the game when it felt like we were the only ones getting penalised for seemingly minor indiscretions
O'Loughlin is a serial offender for offside and continually gets away with it. A Leigh fan shouted out last night "Sean, come and stand in our line. Oh sorry, I can now see you already are."
We are definitely acclimatising to the pace of SL and injuries permitting we will continue to improve.
The level of support the team is receiving is massively encouraging - it is vital this is sustained throughout the whole season.
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| Quote: GUBRATS "Cas have grabbed the nettle and despite having only 2/3 top class players are no better than us , but they believe in themselves'" . "2/3 top class players" could be the difference that makes the difference.
With Neil evidently having one eye on the next 2 home games which come in quick succession - and 4 points being achievable - I reckon Leigh performed admirably last night. The points will come when the pitch gets firmer - absolutely no question.
In the last 3 games of (Leeds, St Helens and Wigan), Leigh have conceded a total of 53 points (17.7 per game average). That's pretty freaking good, with obvious improvement every week. And some "supporters" are apparently not satisfied. I've got terrible news for you, life's loaded with night and day. Alternatively, you could choose to chillax and enjoy the ride a bit.
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| Plenty of positives at the moment for me - we seem to be getting more used to this level week on week.
Think our defence is excellent - we got beat by the best English stand off we have had for yonks
Think we still need to learn how to play the refs, a big weakness for us at the moment - lose the penalty count every week so it can't be down to the refs
Also, and this may be a little harsh on Reynolds as he hasn't done a great deal wrong, but I reckon we need Riddy- our kicking game is not punishing enough at the moment, we rarely seem to turn the opposition round
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| Quote: Centurino ". "2/3 top class players" could be the difference that makes the difference.
With Neil evidently having one eye on the next 2 home games which come in quick succession - and 4 points being achievable - I reckon Leigh performed admirably last night. The points will come when the pitch gets firmer - absolutely no question.
In the last 3 games of (Leeds, St Helens and Wigan), Leigh have conceded a total of 53 points (17.7 per game average). That's pretty freaking good, with obvious improvement every week. And some "supporters" are apparently not satisfied. I've got terrible news for you, life's loaded with night and day. Alternatively, you could choose to chillax and enjoy the ride a bit.
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Enjoying the ride immensely , and as you put defensively we are doing well , but no reason that a team cannot have both , yes I want more , because I believe we re capable of much more
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