With top 6 looking an increasingly distant possibility, at what point should team selections have more of a reflection on next year's plans?

For example, if we're signing David Armstrong, should Moylan move to 6 now, with McIntosh at full back, allowing Moylan and Lam to link up with a pacy full back behind them? Are the club bringing in two new centres, or planning to promote (e.g. Brand) or move someone (e.g. Hanley) that is already in? If the latter, why not make that switch now? Should everything go through Asiata when he's back, if we don't have a similar 13 coming in?

We've only managed to win 2 games in a row once this season anyway, so not even much to lose.

It's foot to the pedal for me. The season is not over and we still have a lot to play for.

For me, we have to put our best team out week after week with our best players in their best positions.

We just have too many players leaving at the end of the season to start tinkering now and to start experimenting with remaining players who may, or may not, be starters next season.

I also think the club owes it to the fans to put the strongest available team out week after week.

There's also a big chunk of the season still to play for. Until it is mathematically impossible to qualify then the aim surely still has to be the play-offs.

I don't think the two approaches are mutually exclusive. I certainly wouldn't be disappointed by an approach that doesn't see Ed Chamberlain lining up at stand off again.

For best players in their best positions, what is Moylan's best position? If it is full back, then why are we pursuing David Armstrong? There could also be some debate about Ipape's best position. He's not as explosive from dummy half as he was in the Championship, and we've seen him score from first receiver twice in recent weeks, Maybe he should be playing more at 13? I'd certainly like to see more spells where we have both him and Dwyer on.

Ultimately, I think we need to tweak some bits, as we've struggled to score tries since the Salford game. Then we can stick with what works if we're still in with a shout of top 6 in a few weeks time.

i dont think the coach knows his best side at the moment thats if hes picking the team. is the loose forward in training or has derek banished him. key players are leaving at year end. have some already left mentally massive rebuilding required and our marquee selections will be crucial we need to maintain or improve our culture. performances have been off all season
its really galling to see two young leigh lads starring for the pies we seem to be signing lads from the teams post them two i hope our new set up means we dont miss anymore

I doubt Lam would've signed a contract extension if he wasn't picking the team. Asiata has been injured, not banished. Why would the owner pay somebody just to sideline them, while O'Donnell and Amone continue to play?

I doubt Lam would've signed a contract extension if he wasn't picking the team. Asiata has been injured, not banished. Why would the owner pay somebody just to sideline them, while O'Donnell and Amone continue to play?

Ipape would be a very good 13. In fact, he is originally a half back.

I can see Hanley being one Centre next season with Leigh perusing one at the moment.

Armstrong is also a Dangerous Winger so it’s good to know that we have multi positioned players in the back line. I think we will have a very good team next season and certainly building for the future.

Ipape would be a very good 13. In fact, he is originally a half back.

I can see Hanley being one Centre next season with Leigh perusing one at the moment.

Armstrong is also a Dangerous Winger so it’s good to know that we have multi positioned players in the back line. I think we will have a very good team next season and certainly building for the future.

We need a good big centre who can defend on the right edge, who can also give his winger good ball. I thought Hardackers defence was poor today against Wardle. He had hold of him and then let go and they go on and score. Rhys Martin springs to mind.

failure to score tries has cost us the season a whole new three quarter line with additional pace is required with big holes in pack massive job on

Thats exactly what we need at Hull but what does Ritchie Rich do sign Hardaker.
You have to wonder if he has left his brain at Leeds and is working from a lucky bag.Got lucky with the first ball out Asiata but since then has been left with a bag of average Joes

There is a a fine line with experimenting and playing with strongest team. I doubt Armstrong would have agreed to come if he was to play on the wing so with that, unless Lam is moving , I see no issue in pairing up the understanding with Moylan. With that , a lot will depend on the 13 we bring in and how we play in attack. With Catalan signing partington that may pave the way for Garcia as a few have expected

I'm not too sure there's much of a fine line now. We're at the point where we need two clubs to absolutely implode to have a chance of top 6, and also, the last 5 games have seen us score 6 tries with 4 of them being barge overs from dummy half or first reciever. So we can't just keep going in the same way.

I think Ipape needs to start at 13, while Asiata builds his minutes up, because our shape in attack looks all over the place when we don't have a playmaker there

We need a bit of ‘Off the cuff” from the halfbacks, our play is a bit pedestrian ending in a kick to the opposition.
We also have virtually redundant wingers because both centres are selfish.

Rhys Martin would be an excellent signing, but in the pack not at surely