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| We were beaten by a better team on the night . Only our 2nd game and in a mud bath. We will improve a lot yet. A few more players will be signed. Tactics in 1st half totally wrong. In those conditions and playing downhill you kick to the left hand corner and follow up with a good chase then try to keep them there. It isn't rocket science. For me, we need a better stand-off. Reynolds just isn't good enough. Also doubts about Smith. Not fast enough round the ruck or distributing the ball but we have the PNG hooker yet to join. Dixon also had a bad day at the office. I think the conditions were a shock to the system for our players from sunnier climes. I still believe we will do Fev at the end of the season when it matters most . Come on, Leigh!!!
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| Quote: WYSIWYG2 "We were beaten by a better team on the night . Only our 2nd game and in a mud bath. We will improve a lot yet. A few more players will be signed. Tactics in 1st half totally wrong. In those conditions and playing downhill you kick to the left hand corner and follow up with a good chase then try to keep them there. It isn't rocket science. For me, we need a better stand-off. Reynolds just isn't good enough. Also doubts about Smith. Not fast enough round the ruck or distributing the ball but we have the PNG hooker yet to join. Dixon also had a bad day at the office. I think the conditions were a shock to the system for our players from sunnier climes. I still believe we will do Fev at the end of the season when it matters most . Come on, Leigh!!!'"
Graham I agree 100% , Reynolds is not the answer at 6 , he can’t work with Mellor , Dixon just had a bad game I bet he wished he hadn’t got off the Coach , but things will improve .
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| Quote: WYSIWYG2 "We were beaten by a better team on the night . Only our 2nd game and in a mud bath. We will improve a lot yet. A few more players will be signed. Tactics in 1st half totally wrong. In those conditions and playing downhill you kick to the left hand corner and follow up with a good chase then try to keep them there. It isn't rocket science. For me, we need a better stand-off. Reynolds just isn't good enough. Also doubts about Smith. Not fast enough round the ruck or distributing the ball but we have the PNG hooker yet to join. Dixon also had a bad day at the office. I think the conditions were a shock to the system for our players from sunnier climes. I still believe we will do Fev at the end of the season when it matters most . Come on, Leigh!!!'"
No chance of making it tonight (first away game target for Bongser's gracing is 'Fax). Thanks for your thoughts WYS...
They crossed and correlated with Bongser's expectations as posted on the Fev Preview thread.
Leigh go bragh!
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| Beaumont has been banging on about how we got it wrong in the past by giving more than 1 year contracts, and yet he's given Reynolds a 2 year contract from the off. WTF. I'm sure we'll improve but, we certainly haven't got it right atm. I sincerely hope we don't have a repeat of the 2018 season where we didn't make the playoffs when we spent the full cap. I'll say it again, it's alright spending plenty of money but, If you don't get the right players you're fooked.
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| Fev are part time and yet the evidence is that they have assembled a squad good enough to beat us 28 - 6 with two of their biggest forwards missing. We have warned on this board for months that the squad lacks numbers. We have undoubted quality in our better players. Now we find that the depth of quality in the squad beyond those better players is insufficient, even though they are full time. If we are to take dual reg or loan players then they need to be of sufficient quality. I can’t understand how a part time team can win so comfortably against a carefully assembled (at great expense) full time squad.
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| Another issue we have is at hooker, and this was clear even from the Whitehaven match.
Aaron Smith in terms of all round ability is nowhere near the quality we have previously had with Bob Beswick, Sean Penkywicz, Micky Higham, or Liam Hood. Bringing in kids will not get us promotion.
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| Reynolds an easy target once again, my priorities would be a defensive coach and a tackling coach.
A player breaking six flimsy tackles to score is bloody awful.
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| Well in the light of a new day we all have our views on what went wrong. , I’m sure Derek ,Lammy , and Chester are not saying this morning , let’s read the RLFANS Forum , to see where we went wrong , they will know , and will address it .
I’m sure when players become available we will have a go at signing them , but if they are not out there we can’t sign them , Derek has stated he is talking with Gelling , so let’s give them time .
Back to last night , which will no doubt be the most difficult game of the season , remember we lost Sidlow before the game , then lost our prop Green very early , we had 11 men for a time , and Dixon had a nightmare game , though I’m not blaming him , these things happen , Aekins looked a bit nervous under the high ball , obviously the conditions , and Brand was invisible , again he’s young ,mi like the lad ,but Reynolds has to be more creative and work in tandem with Mellor , which he didn’t do .
All in all a poor result but one game , bring on Bradford next week it’s amazing what a decent pitch and dry weather can do .Hopefully get a few bodies back , things will improve .Charlie knows .
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| Quote: J7P1 "Fev are part time and yet the evidence is that they have assembled a squad good enough to beat us 28 - 6 with two of their biggest forwards missing. We have warned on this board for months that the squad lacks numbers. We have undoubted quality in our better players. Now we find that the depth of quality in the squad beyond those better players is insufficient, even though they are full time. If we are to take dual reg or loan players then they need to be of sufficient quality. I can’t understand how a part time team can win so comfortably against a carefully assembled (at great expense) full time squad.'"
You have to remember that Fev have been putting this side together for a number of seasons where as Leigh have been putting one together for a number of weeks. Agents must be rubbing their hands now knowing that after last night Leigh will be desparate to pick up any half decent player that becomes available. Awful planning from DB through last season may cost Leigh but Im sure they will be better as the season wears on but its going to take a lot for them to get to Fev's level.
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "You have to remember that Fev have been putting this side together for a number of seasons where as Leigh have been putting one together for a number of weeks. Agents must be rubbing their hands now knowing that after last night Leigh will be desparate to pick up any half decent player that becomes available. Awful planning from DB through last season may cost Leigh but Im sure they will be better as the season wears on but its going to take a lot for them to get to Fev's level.'"
I think you've hit the nail on the head there. It's going to take time to gel but still adding players now going into week 3 isn't going to help matters. We have a hooker that doesn't run from dummy half and has a slow looping pass. We have a stand off with the worst short kicking game I've ever seen at leigh. The passing along the line is slow and predictable and the half backs just don't work together. Mellor tried but on numerous occasions stepped back inside as the players outside him just weren't ready for the play. Poor poor attacking display and some of our defence out wide wasn't great.
So much to improve on but we must get players in and get this squad settled. There has been so much talk about us talking to players/agents since the home shirt revealing night but we have only signed Ibape and Dixon (was already on trial).
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| We are in the same position we are always in,whole sale changes in the close season no continuity not much time to gel.Thought we got beat by a better team who wanted it more and played the conditions,as for Ben we have had him on and off for quite a few years full time,I don't see any improvement in him,he doesn't seem to be able to focus for 80mins and cannot lead us round the park.Dont get me wrong he does try and puts the effort in and a fearless tackler but in my opinion he's not the play maker to take us forward. Opposition fans warned us about Dixon and he didn't disappoint Hopefully Lammy and Chester can get a few more player in
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| Quote: J7P1 "Fev are part time and yet the evidence is that they have assembled a squad good enough to beat us 28 - 6 with two of their biggest forwards missing. We have warned on this board for months that the squad lacks numbers. We have undoubted quality in our better players. Now we find that the depth of quality in the squad beyond those better players is insufficient, even though they are full time. If we are to take dual reg or loan players then they need to be of sufficient quality. I can’t understand how a part time team can win so comfortably against a carefully assembled (at great expense) full time squad.'"
Appears to me that Fev are a mix of part & full time but mainly Full Time players. Leilua, Chisholme, Hall, Cuthbertson, Moors, Briscoe & the new Aussie Half on his way plus others all Full Time.
Fevs Ex Leigh players all seemed to play well against us & as a team wanted it more than us.
I've said it before & I will say it again, I backed Ben to come good the first few years but the last few has shown he isn't Super League standard & SL standard is what we need to get there, he just doesn't have the vision or off the cuff play & his kicking game is garbage. I also can't get my head around that brain fart late shoulder on a tackled & grounded Fev player.
I felt sorry for Dixon because you could tell he was really working hard but the errors ruined him, maybe trying to hard.
Hopefully talks are ongoing & lead to some good player's coming in.
In the pre match interview Lam sounded like he wasn't really happy with Mellor & Reynolds but chose his words carefully. Maybe Lam & Chester can apply some influence to go out & get a classy 6. Gelling would also be a bonus at centre.
Green out with suspected broken arm in the 2nd game already which highlights the vulnerability of a thin squad.
Having said all of that I am reasonably confident it will all come good & Leigh can do the business.
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| We all know are squad is too small, apart from DB.
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| Brand is a squad player at best, its no coincidence Warrington have released him after his performance against them in SL. Having him and Nisbett on one edge is asking for trouble.
We have spent all this money on players again and then have a loanee at hooker and wing.
We were exposed at the weekend by a club that has chosen the right players to get the job done. Id rather play the big lad Roberts who spent all last year in the Championship getting great reviews.
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