Maybe I'm a lone voice on this forum, however I would have voted for both clubs without any hesitation. British RL has such a myopic attitude in such scenarios that could very likely be the source of the death of the game in the UK (take the exclusion of Toronto, Toulose and (even though eventually recinded) Catalans from this year's Challenge Cup - an enormous 'own goal' by British RL). Given the choice between self interest and global expansion in the game, there's only one clear choice to take.

I wouldn't compare Toronto to Toulouse. If any Club gains merit from me it's Toulouse, they have used their own home grown players with quota additions which all use. Toronto are no further on in that department. Many will say they've only been here two minutes, but now are on the verge of SL (if accepted).

Toulouse shows the meaning of expansion, Toronto have a long way to go to get on their level regardless of which league either end up in next season.

Has everybody forgot that Toronto signed around 2/3rds of our 2015 team. I’m sure it's got something to do with this.

Can't see Ottawa and New York doing that!

I'm a self-confessed Luddite, and I think it will all end in tears, with British RL being worse off at the end of it.

Anyway, it's good to see a debate (other than B&B's entertaining forecast comp.) back on this forum!

I don't think RFL has much choice. NY, Ottawa, Toronto, Catalans, Toulouse. SKY have to come up with a lot more money in the next SL contract than the ridiculous one negotiated last time (A 7 years pittance, wasn't it?!) with these cities in the competition. Like it or not, these cities bring a lot more clout to the negotiating table. It's the way SL has to go to become a worldwide product. They would have been fools to turn them down. I fear mergers are going to surface again if the lesser clubs want to be part of it. I'm certain there will be talks of a Manchester club for SL within the next few years. Imagine Manchester v New York - SKY would love that, they hold the purse strings and will be pushing for these kind of fixtures. It isn't good for us diehards but it's the way it will eventually evolve.

The mission failed in doing so and Leigh went to promised land. I remember well.

I agree, with them in, carries more fire power for the future TV contract. But who is to say Ottawa and New York cant give a TV contract that covers the lower tiers which outweighs the Sky contract. If they wait Sky will stitch them up again for £300k. Useless money as it always has been.

Back Chat Thursday 2nd May

Rugby League World editor Matt Shaw hosts the discussion with Wakefied Trinity CEO Michael Carter, Leigh Centurions owner Derek Beaumont and player agent Dave Peet.

Main points regarding our Club? No reserve squad, as the emphasis is on creating a first grade team to return to SL. He is also in a position to challenge Toronto should he decide or his advisors decide to do so.