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| Quote GUBRATS="GUBRATS"You obviously knew that the SL team and the 2018 squads were rubbish beforehand , maybe you can find the posts you made at the time declaring such
Derek doesn't need defending from anybody , he owes nobody anything , he is well within his rights to have the club run as a business this year if he so wishes , meaning that yes the supporters will have to finance it , that's how businesses work'"
Look when I signed up to the forum, easy answer for you then eh?
You say that yet anytime anyone says anything about the running of the club from the last 2 years here you come like Comical Ali saying “nothing to see here”. I didn’t mention Derek I said whoever made the decisions.
I said the club was badly ran, it squandered millions of money be that Derek’s or the Leagues or the fans paying on overpriced mercenaries for the most part. £100k a year on Acton who is historically banned for half a season.. As I said bad decisions from whoever made them.
And now we have basically a begging bucket to pay for a player who has already signed. It’s another bad decision, looks terrible.
You say the fans should help more and pay more.. Why? Maybe they are sick to the back teeth of being lied to.
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| Quote ColD="ColD"So LISA provides money to the club even when it’s not required
Bit of a strange one and feels a little pointless
Be interesting to know what the set amount trigger is and the % released, and why that is, but not really my place'"
I have simplified things on this subject , the point being that the money is given to support the paying of players essentially at that point in time , not 2/3 years in the future , from the point of the LISA committee , would you want them to be sitting on a bank account with 3/4 years contributions ? , they most certainly do not and I'm fairly confident neither would the members
Again , are you a member of LISA ? , if so go along to the meeting in a couple of weeks and ask , if you aren't a member then a £ 5 donation on the night will give you the right to ask any question you like
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| Quote Draexnael="Draexnael"
And now we have basically a begging bucket to pay for a player who has already signed. It’s another bad decision, looks terrible.
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You do understand the basic principles of business , and primarily a sports business I assume ? , you set your budget on a predicted forecast of income , our only guaranteed income at this moment is central funding , current ST sales , current sold sponsorship and corporate sales , and essentially a contribution from LISA dependent on the current membership numbers as rarely do members cancel during the season
So wether Gregg has or hasn't actually put pen to paper is irrelevant , the club administration will make their decision based on their forecast of the extra money that LISA can provide
Essentially it is all based on guesswork every year , I thought everybody realised that
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| Quote Draexnael="Draexnael"
You say that yet anytime anyone says anything about the running of the club from the last 2 years here you come like Comical Ali saying “nothing to see here”. I didn’t mention Derek I said whoever made the decisions.
I said the club was badly ran, it squandered millions of money be that Derek’s or the Leagues or the fans paying on overpriced mercenaries for the most part. £100k a year on Acton who is historically banned for half a season.. As I said bad decisions from whoever made them.
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You didn't mention Derek , but just who exactly did you mean ? So don't pretend to be stupid
" Badly run ? " , you mean like getting promoted to SL , not finishing bottom , sticking 50 past Wigan , beating Saints , Warrington and Hull and being a dropped pass from retaining our place ?
Yes last year wasn't good , well tough , that's the way it goes sometimes , in this years Premier League there will be a lot more disappointed owners , coaches and fans than happy ones , if you can't stand being let down from time to time , take up knitting instead of pretending to be a RL fan
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| Financially, the club is run badly, on the pitch prior to 2018 the team has been run extremely successfully. I know a lot of sponsors that dont support now because of Derek’s ignorance towards them and the amateur way the CEO goes about things.
The club needs to keep ALL sponsors and financial supporters on side at all times, basic business. It doesn’t do this and only thinks of the here and now and not the long game.
LISA is a great setup and I hope people do buy into it as it will help underpin financial stability for the future of the club.
Gregg McNally had agreed well before Christmas but Bradford needed to release him publicly and rightly so, Bradford come out of this looking like a great club and all about player welfare.
The statement from Leigh was poorly worded and very amateur although the message behind it was absolutely correct, it could have been genius PR about bringing a player home who most fans wanted and associate with the “good times” of a few years ago, however it came across as “give us £15k and we will sign him for you”
Anyway Gregg is back and the new LISA subscriptions will no doubt go towards another unexpected player or 2.
See you all in the North Stand.
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| Quote GUBRATS="GUBRATS"I have simplified things on this subject , the point being that the money is given to support the paying of players essentially at that point in time , not 2/3 years in the future , from the point of the LISA committee , would you want them to be sitting on a bank account with 3/4 years contributions ? , they most certainly do not and I'm fairly confident neither would the members
Again , are you a member of LISA ? , if so go along to the meeting in a couple of weeks and ask , if you aren't a member then a £ 5 donation on the night will give you the right to ask any question you like'"
But the club didn’t need the money, just seems a strange arrangement. Can understand with a Halifax type run club - ours has been different.
Rather stick it in the bank than spend for spending sake, it’s like me having so much savings in the bank and having to then buy something for pretty much no reason when it hits a certain level.
Not a member of LISA, and not really bought into this latest “charade” either. Reading comments on the Bradford board that your missus has allegedly stated that the McNally deal is done and dusted, and therefore making the clubs statement a bit of a sham doesn’t help either 
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| Quote ColD="ColD"But the club didn’t need the money, just seems a strange arrangement. Can understand with a Halifax type run club - ours has been different.
Rather stick it in the bank than spend for spending sake, it’s like me having so much savings in the bank and having to then buy something for pretty much no reason when it hits a certain level.
Not a member of LISA, and not really bought into this latest “charade” either. Reading comments on the Bradford board that your missus has allegedly stated that the McNally deal is done and dusted, and therefore making the clubs statement a bit of a sham doesn’t help either
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She hasn't stated its a done deal , however she has suggested it should happen now we have so far raised over half of the amount requested
As you aren't a member why do you even care how the money is allocated ? , I'm sure any members who are interested or concerned will ask at the meeting
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| Quote GUBRATS="GUBRATS"She hasn't stated its a done deal , however she has suggested it should happen now we have so far raised over half of the amount requested
As you aren't a member why do you even care how the money is allocated ? , I'm sure any members who are interested or concerned will ask at the meeting'"
So we don’t need £15k
I care because it affects the club I support, had it left the money in the bank it could have bought 2 Greg McNallys without the club having to beg
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| Quote ColD="ColD"So we don’t need £15k
I care because it affects the club I support, had it left the money in the bank it could have bought 2 Greg McNallys without the club having to beg'"
Do you understand the difference between ' should ' , and ' have ' ?
If LISA hadn't given the money for the last 3/4 years then either somebody else would have had to put it in ( Derek ) or we wouldn't have employed as many players ?
Stop acting stupid Col , you are better than that
Let's look at if LISA had stockpiled the cash in say 2015 and had stated they had £ 20K in the bank , do you think the LISA members would have continued donating for the last 3 years ?
My last words on this , if you do ' Care ' about the club , DONATE , otherwise quite simply mate its got buggerall to do with you
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| Quote GUBRATS="GUBRATS"Do you understand the difference between ' should ' , and ' have ' ?
If LISA hadn't given the money for the last 3/4 years then either somebody else would have had to put it in ( Derek ) or we wouldn't have employed as many players ?
Stop acting stupid Col , you are better than that
Let's look at if LISA had stockpiled the cash in say 2015 and had stated they had £ 20K in the bank , do you think the LISA members would have continued donating for the last 3 years ?
My last words on this , if you do ' Care ' about the club , DONATE , otherwise quite simply mate its got buggerall to do with you'"
Yes I do
Derek would
No idea, do the members know where the money went, on what, and how much is in the coffers
If the only people to ‘care’ about the club DONATED, then we’d be heading for a very low attendance this season. Like you say, buggerall to do with me - only supported the club for more than 45 years, thank god you won’t be commenting further on the subject 
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| Quote GUBRATS="GUBRATS"Do you understand the difference between ' should ' , and ' have ' ?
If LISA hadn't given the money for the last 3/4 years then either somebody else would have had to put it in ( Derek ) or we wouldn't have employed as many players ?
Stop acting stupid Col , you are better than that
Let's look at if LISA had stockpiled the cash in say 2015 and had stated they had £ 20K in the bank , do you think the LISA members would have continued donating for the last 3 years ?
My last words on this , if you do ' Care ' about the club , DONATE , otherwise quite simply mate its got buggerall to do with you'"
So basically if you don’t donate you don’t care? What an embarrassing statement, what if someone can’t afford to do so? Its basically guilt tripping or blackmail.
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