Apologies, to clarify I mean Ben and drew never let us down in defence. Not that I think so anyway. They always both seem solid to me. You feel as though summat is more of a leader than either? Is that that this big hype around him?

I agree there is still cons but I don’t we could replace either with better ATM, and do you not think in time they can be what we need? Despite for me doing a good job now?

I’m with big time on this, Sammut is very maverick, yeah he does some very good things in attack but there all for he’s self, he is a good player at this level but gets found out against the SL teams, stick with these too for now. Daley cherry Evans is looking for a way out of Manley.. he said he wants back too the Gold Coast I’m sure he wouldn’t mind a few months on the golden sands of Pennington flash

To be honest, you said you had only seen Sammut play twice. I don't think you can make a judgement on just two games. He can kick any team all over the park, and kicked us all over the park many a time. On form he is unplayable.

Thats the difference as both Reynolds and Hutchison cannot step up to that level,their play is predictable, therefore playable. Their partnership is just too, two dimensional.

Will they improve? You have to look at the facts as Sunday showed, they are stuck in their ways.

Well Hutchison was first choice NRL 7 until his injury - so it’s pretty clear he has the ability to step up to a far better standard than Champ rugby don’t you think
Jury out on the levels Reynolds can reach but he’s deffo improved this season

They wont turn into Sammut, Ford, etc... But as we've seen, their play will improve if the players around them perform better. We're not going to sign a new half back this month, so we need some front rowers to step up to give them the sort of platform they need.

We wont be in the top 4 unless we get some fresh energy the lads are gassed. unless we get some decent middles we are done.

Chicken & the Egg.

This time last year KR were bringing in Masoe, Carney ETC

I agree,for me the CC was always going to be too much,but anyone who say's it generated a bit of money,well fine,bring some middles in with it.

Yes and junior kangaroo. Having the ability and actually doing the job are two different things. Reynolds with the expericence he's gained at both levels should be ripping this league up now.

No very true they won't turn into them. But the passing at times from both of them is so poor,it makes the forwards look poor. Most are suicide passes stood still.

Both are great behind a dominant pack, on the front foot both can dictate play but we aren't winning many games in the middle.

When you are winning the ruck in the middle you can play shape and get overlaps like Castleford do so well.

There have to be players out there who need game time.

Warrington-Dom Crosby
Salford-Ryan Lannon
Castleford-Gadwin Springer