Yes and if my Aunty had balls she would be my uncle.

Fed up of all this 'if he had a broken neck' rubbish, he didn't, his arms and legs were moving, you don't need to be a doctor to work that out.

He also wasn't concussed, as the head test and Catalans doctor proved. So essentially Jamie grabbed the shirt of a player on the floor who went down to avoid a sin binning.

What if birds late and high challenge had hit Ben in the temple rather than his nose, he could've had brain damage or worse?

Now don't get me wrong it's poor sportsmanship but wow, some people, including our own supporters, need to get a grip.

It's the mock outrage and online histrionics that will determine the length of his ban rather than his actions

Some very valid points put over there, but do you honestly think Acton was even contemplating the situation at the time
Hope there is a good outcome from our point of view but I have my doubts

Me too Col. I can't see how he can get out of this one. At the end of the day, his actions simply can't be defended, whatever their motivation, or the state of Bird's health.

Thats his weakness,he still needs to learn to pipe that aggression with ball in hand. Not continually off the ball.

Aggression is good but you have to learn to keep a cap on it Acton deserves everything he gets there should be no complaints from anyone at or involved with the club. The way rugby going we will end up playing tick and pass In a few years

If only he could do that, and it's looking increasingly like he can't, I still feel he would be international potential.

Do you remember Richard Moore, when he was with us in 2005 SL? His attitude was not dissimilar to Jamie's. After he left us, he had a spell out of the game, and took a labouring job. He reckoned that was the biggest shock to his life that he had ever experienced and then realised how fortunate he had been to enjoy the privilege of being a professional sportsman, instead of grafting for a living. I believe his attitude changed after that. He still played hard, but cut out much of the silliness that is now blighting Acton's game.

Ferris did indeed serve six matches because he seriously hurt Gildart! how many games did Gildart miss?
Your Club has its share of disciplinary offenders too, JJB, Ferris, Garbutt and Ablett have all been through the door at Red Hall! And lets not forget, your Club gave us Ryan Bailey too


I asked had Jamie Acton ever injured anyone to warrant such lengthy Bans?
Against Salford in the 8s last season, Jamie was pulled up by the review Panel for pushing Salford's Flanagan with two hands in the back. This incident was not seen by TV, the officials or Spectators! Jamie was given a FOUR MATCH BAN

This season I watched Widnes player Chris Houston run at speed and push Ref Phil Bentham flat on his face! Houston did not receive any Ban whatsoever

which offence would you consider the worst? Don't forget here Referee Bentham [ucould [/uhave broken his neck being hit from behind when unaware of impending contact!
Notice the use of the word COULD ? that's exactly what Jamie is now accused of

Hiya Mr Cat thanks for your input incidently, Dog fighting is illegal


You say it was not a late challenge? where was Ben Reynolds hiding the Ball then? Answer, 20 yards down field where he kicked before being hit late ! Reynolds is over six feet tall (I think) and Bird swivels his body to connect with Ben just before impact!
Stop listening to Phil Clarke and co and look at the action in slow motion!
Sky went on about our second try and Crooks foot in touch well, it was clearly in touch however, he didn't have his hands on the ball at the time and when he did pick the Ball up he moved his foot back into play! Exactly what the linesman saw


Regarding picking Reynolds up, do you know if there was any rhetoric between Ben and Jamie? or indeed, between Bird and Jamie?
Anyone who's ever played halfback will know its reassuring to have one of your forwards looking out for you particularly when cowards like Bird are around! Alex Murphy was always grateful for the 'protection' Vince Karalius gave him and I'm sure, there are many other halfbacks that have received the same protection from team mates! If Bens not already thanked you Jamie, i'll do it now on his behalf

That also applies to Gareth Hock! I think he has seen Red only once with us in two and half seasons ? and that was in the mass brawl at Swinton which, Hock did not instigate only he defended himself, admirably

What Bird did was intent,but not malicious intent,unlike Actons.When you trip somebody up there is no malicious intent only intent. The current grading system only covers malicious intent not intent.

See what I mean..