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| Lots of factors for sure, but given the paucity of data made available by the RFL (and that for fantasy league purposes, not informing the public) this is what we have.
On home wins v away61%
Championship since 200655%
SL this year55%
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There is, even amongst the best referees we have, a tendency for the home side to win the penalty count.
But if we assume, and I agree that it's an assumption that this is the cause, that the home crowd has an effect on the referee's performance then it also makes sense to look at the degree to which that happens amongst different teams. Different grounds, different ways sound echoes around the place, the sophisticated and cultured nature of some team's fans (Bradford, for example) compared to the uncouth, slavering at the mouth vernacular swearitude of others (Leeds, say).
This one is how much teams benefit from the referee by being at homehttp://i.imgur.com/J3H3xnx.png" >
And straight away we see that those teams with the smaller crowds, who may even be often outnumbered while at home, benefit the least from the referee. RFL bias against smaller teams? We've thought that at one time or other but I don't believe it. Interesting teams at the top though, right? I certainly wouldn't have predicted those.
What if we flip that on its head and see which teams are at the biggest disadvantage on the penalty count away from homehttp://i.imgur.com/SZuWAvw.png" >
Again, Crusaders and Salford. Do we say that these are the two dirtiest teams in Super League since 2007? Because I absolutely do not believe that. And there's Catalans. Quite the advantage at home and nailed to a tree as an example to others away from home. That's what you get when most of your away support are hipsters from Leeds who pretend to be French at weekends.
I think a good number of SL fans would predict that Wigan would be the side who should be penalised the most. Whether by false impression or not it's hard to say, but I think they are probably the most complained about in terms of 'gamesmanship' and the extent to which they walk the line in the tackle. Solidly mid table both away and at home though.
Large home crowds, large travelling support. Same for Leeds (albeit less commonly thought of as an edgy team). Does it explain the difference?
That's up to you. I think so though.
(Apologies for the long post. And apologies for the odd colours too - I don't actually know what I'm doing).
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| Quote: vbfg " I don't actually know what I'm doing).'" You seem to be pitching a PhD proposal ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif) . A lot of interesting data, that does seem to indicate that referees may have differing relationships with the home and away sides. Probably still not causation in terms of the outcome of matches, though? (I am no statistician). I wonder what changes when matches are played at neutral venues?
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| Quote: Brummy Leyther "You seem to be pitching a PhD proposal
We could never call this causation, it's just highly suggestive.
My main point here is shout at referees. Call everything forward, everything high and the referee bent whenever you can. Bugger what the oppo' fans think of you.
My next project is the NRL and its ever reducing number of suburban grounds and the shift to big multi team stadia. I am very curious about that now but I've never looked into it, and I haven't seen anyone else do it either. There must be someone over there who's thought of it but I've never seen the results.
Kinda curious to see what if any change two referees brought too. If this does boil down to psychology and the need for some, however slight, kidn of reassurance when there's the briefest hint of ambiguity then maybe that extra ref serves as a support mechanism.
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| Well we now only have one Home match between now and the 12th of June, as well as 5 away games + Summer Bash.
If we can push through that period with strong results then we have a decent run in with 5 of our last 7 games at home.
Is the LSV pitch being relayed again as we have so many away fixtures bunched together?
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| Quote: Nozzy "Well we now only have one Home match between now and the 12th of June, as well as 5 away games + Summer Bash.
If we can push through that period with strong results then we have a decent run in with 5 of our last 7 games at home.
Is the LSV pitch being relayed again as we have so many away fixtures bunched together?'"
Wouldn't mind the throw-away turf, if it is!! My lawns are rubbish - and I would love to watch the LSV grass grow, all day long! ![Wink icon_wink.gif](images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote: Nozzy "Well we now only have one Home match between now and the 12th of June, as well as 5 away games + Summer Bash.
If we can push through that period with strong results then we have a decent run in with 5 of our last 7 games at home.
Is the LSV pitch being relayed again as we have so many away fixtures bunched together?'"
It gets six weeks off every season for scarifying and re-seeding. The price we have to pay for having the best pitch in the league.
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