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Quote: Wire Yed "Someone needs to come out and tell everyone to stfu and keep it all behind closed doors, you're looking amateur at the moment and if i was a Leigh fan right now I'd be embarrassed by all this.

Stop washing your dirty linen in public and get back to the entertaining rugby you're known more for.'"



Your spot on WIRE YED.....What you have just said is very true....its totally embarrassing ...and that starts at the top.

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Quote: mr. chairman "Why would Rowly want him he had the best two half backs in the division '"

Agreed best two halfbacks in the division, the division we want to win promotion from. Ridy is excellent but is getting on & might not have the pace for SL & Ryan didn't perform particularly well in the Super 8s and has now stabbed the club in the back. Rangi is a proven quality halfback who's played at the highest levels in the game.
Quote: mr. chairman "any way fowls was told to play chase at warrington when he didn't want to .'"

It was a preseason friendly with unlimited interchanges & an infinite bench, why wouldn't he want to play Rangi? Normally does as most coaches do & play every fit player available. Would think any coach would want to see how his new half back gets on so as to work out how to fit him in the team.
Quote: mr. chairman " Chase messed up at Salford and created problems in the dressing rooms '"

So did Hock and Patterson, did Rowley not want them either? Certainly seemed to want Hock & has gotten the best out of him. Paul has a history of taking players who messed up at other clubs & getting the best out of them. Fax & Fev fans said Barlow be nothing but trouble & Rowly got him playing excellently. Why the sudden suggested change in attitude from Paul?
Quote: mr. chairman " he as issues that will take a long time to fix and personally I hope he gets better the club have helped him with these on a ongoing basis , he is in the right place at the moment '"

Agreed there but I very much doubt he's the only player with those issues, just in Rangi's case his issues have been made public.
Quote: mr. chairman "don't think paul would have said publicly that he didn't want him but derek did want him and got him and wanted him to play every game '"

Don't think for one second Derek would try to interfere with the coaching side, he's always said that was down to Paul, always said "I leave that side to Paul as at the end of the day its his job on the line & so it's only fair to let him live or die by his own sword." or words to that effect. See no reason he'd have a sudden change of philosophy. Star signing or not (& we've had a few star signings Derek wanted & got, did he insist Fui played every game or Hock or Higham?).
Quote: mr. chairman " sorry but the truth sometimes hurts '"

The truth also usually has some evidence to back it up.
Quote: mr. chairman " and the club will continue to be hurt until he goes sorry I'm saying what I feel I think it's called an opinion so no need to have a go at me '"

Fair enough, not having a go just disagreeing with you. Think he's an excellent player who's been playing very well up to now.
Quote: mr. chairman "He is a quality rugby player at times but great rugby players don't always have the right temperment I'm afraid rangi is one of them'"

They don't but a lot of the time temperament is down to the situation, look at Hock & all the other players we've got from Salford.

Sorry but I've seen a few rumours suggesting Paul's resignation was something to do with Rangi & I just don't buy it, don't think it makes any sense. It's no secret some people have a problem with Derek & it's no secret some people don't like Rangi. Think people have pulled a hypothesis from thin air to have a go at two people they don't like which just doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

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Quote: mr. chairman "Why would Rowly want him he had the best two half backs in the division any way fowls was told to play chase at warrington when he didn't want to . Chase messed up at Salford and created problems in the dressing rooms he as issues that will take a long time to fix and personally I hope he gets better the club have helped him with these on a ongoing basis , he is in the right place at the moment don't think paul would have said publicly that he didn't want him but derek did want him and got him and wanted him to play every game sorry but the truth sometimes hurts and the club will continue to be hurt until he goes sorry I'm saying what I feel I think it's called an opinion so no need to have a go at me
He is a quality rugby player at times but great rugby players don't always have the right temperment I'm afraid rangi is one of them'"


I've no idea if you're right or wrong, Mr. C.

I'm not sure I've seen enough from Rangi to be convinced. Flashes of individual brilliance, but not enough team ethic,resilience to adversity and leadership.
If we're to have another half back, I would have gone for an on field general....if they exist of,course.....we have enough creative players for me. What we lack is leadership under pressure in the middle,8s...can Rangi do that job???

I thought Rowleys comment on "a range of roles" for Rangi was revealing.

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Quote: Paul_Lyon "

I thought Rowleys comment on "a range of roles" for Rangi was revealing.'"

My thoughts when I saw that, I'll get the Man of Steel half back in and play him somewhere different! Why would you?
I wouldn't buy a Ferrari and then use it like a 4x4.

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Quote: mr. chairman "Thanks for a good intelligent debate LS and prop forward that's how it should be on here'"

I am not Chases greatest fan,but saying that I think he could/could have been a great asset in the play offs.Hes a player who can win you games out of nothing.As Mr Chairman says riddy and kes are an outstanding pair of halves.In my opinion Rowley last year played them in games were Reynolds would have been a more than able deputy

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Quote: mr. chairman "Thanks for a good intelligent debate LS and prop forward that's how it should be on here'"

You're very welcome, that's what it should be about, debating rugby not decending into trolling & arguments.

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I've no idea if you're right or wrong, Mr. C.

I'm not sure I've seen enough from Rangi to be convinced. Flashes of individual brilliance, but not enough team ethic,resilience to adversity and leadership.
If we're to have another half back, I would have gone for an on field general....if they exist of,course.....we have enough creative players for me. What we lack is leadership under pressure in the middle,8s...can Rangi do that job???

I thought Rowleys comment on "a range of roles" for Rangi was revealing.'"


Oh I agree, we need another general but that's the biggest weakenss in English RL that such players are like hen's teeth. We're fortunate to have Ridy who might not have the pace or the flair of some half backs but he does a very good job as general which is more than lots of teams have.

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