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| Like everyone else on here I am not privy to the agreement around which this dispute is centred. However, as I see it - and providing the RFL confirmed that playing Hock was not contravening the competition rules - if he was to play against Salford his former employers would need to take action against the player (not Leigh Centurions) for "breach of contract".
This action would be determined in accordance with English Law and would examine the release agreement - if indeed one such exists. For that agreement to have been valid, in return for the inclusion of a "can't play" clause there must have been 'consideration' e.g. a golden goodbye payment or a release from paying certain sums due under his original contract when he signed for Salford . The courts would look at this and determine their reasonableness or otherwise. It should mean, however, that the amount of any "damages" would be known at this point and a decision could be taken as to the value for money or not of playing him in the cup tie.
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| Never knew there were so many employment lawyers in Leigh - can't wait for the court case
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| When words like 'Court' & 'English Law' come in to the equation then it gets expensive, are we so desperate for him to play? Move on.
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| Quote BartonFlyer="BartonFlyer"Never knew there were so many employment lawyers in Leigh - can't wait for the court case'"
Most of them don't know the laws of the game never mind the courts. 
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| Quote reffy="reffy"When words like 'Court' & 'English Law' come in to the equation then it gets expensive, are we so desperate for him to play? Move on.'"
When the guy is showing interest on his twitter account that he cant wait for Easter Monday. It's not only us who are desperate to see him play.
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| Quote atomic="atomic"When the guy is showing interest on his twitter account that he cant wait for Easter Monday. It's not only us who are desperate to see him play.'"
Yep! And good on him.
As for the contract. It's clever on Salford's part and something either missed or accepted by Leigh. Either way, just honour what's been signed, learn from it, and get on with the rugby league.
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| Quote John Gilbert Reds="John Gilbert Reds""As part of his release agreement that he signed with us, it was agreed that he couldn't play any competitive games against us," Koukash said.
"Gareth was fully aware of that. The discussions were with Gareth and his agent and, from what I'm hearing, Leigh were made aware of the clause. It's in black and white and agreements are made to be respected."
You cant really get much clearer than that. For all Koukash knew, Hock could have signed for another Super League club and therefore the clause makes absolute sense from a Salford perspective. If we hadn't been drawn together in the Challenge Cup this clause wouldn't have ever been discussed or known of to the general public.'"
and how many other compromise agreements that have MK signature at the bottom have the clause in? hes signed plenty of them. MK told me last night only one has the clause in, which tells me he got personal with Gaz.
Yet he blows his trumpet on GMR regularly about how we should all see marque players yet one of our marque players is being denied the chance by Marwan. Complete double standards.
however Marwan also told me salford are expanding to the NRL.... yeah right... 
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Quote John Gilbert Reds="John Gilbert Reds""As part of his release agreement that he signed with us, it was agreed that he couldn't play any competitive games against us," Koukash said.
"Gareth was fully aware of that. The discussions were with Gareth and his agent and, from what I'm hearing, Leigh were made aware of the clause. It's in black and white and agreements are made to be respected."
You cant really get much clearer than that. For all Koukash knew, Hock could have signed for another Super League club and therefore the clause makes absolute sense from a Salford perspective. If we hadn't been drawn together in the Challenge Cup this clause wouldn't have ever been discussed or known of to the general public.'"
There are differences between agreements and contracts. I can have an agreement to buy someone's house but can back out at any time up until the contracts are signed.
www.diffen.com/difference/Agreement_vs_Contract
I don't know what he has signed with Salford or us for that matter but I would think he's signed a contract with us that will stipulate something along the lines of 'he must make himself available to play if selected', so I would think if PR selects him he could if he's only signed an agreement with Salford quite easily say in court (if it even went to court) I had to break the agreement or I would have been in breach of contract.
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Quote John Gilbert Reds="John Gilbert Reds""As part of his release agreement that he signed with us, it was agreed that he couldn't play any competitive games against us," Koukash said.
"Gareth was fully aware of that. The discussions were with Gareth and his agent and, from what I'm hearing, Leigh were made aware of the clause. It's in black and white and agreements are made to be respected."
You cant really get much clearer than that. For all Koukash knew, Hock could have signed for another Super League club and therefore the clause makes absolute sense from a Salford perspective. If we hadn't been drawn together in the Challenge Cup this clause wouldn't have ever been discussed or known of to the general public.'"
There are differences between agreements and contracts. I can have an agreement to buy someone's house but can back out at any time up until the contracts are signed.
www.diffen.com/difference/Agreement_vs_Contract
I don't know what he has signed with Salford or us for that matter but I would think he's signed a contract with us that will stipulate something along the lines of 'he must make himself available to play if selected', so I would think if PR selects him he could if he's only signed an agreement with Salford quite easily say in court (if it even went to court) I had to break the agreement or I would have been in breach of contract.
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| Charlie will be able to confirm or otherwise. He told me once that he went to law school and he has told me several times he knows everything.
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| Quote salfordlad="salfordlad"Charlie will be able to confirm or otherwise. He told me once that he went to law school and he has told me several times he knows everything.'"
Law School  I was in the same year as The Roman Officer,Tony Cottrell,and Allan Rowley it was more like Outlaw School some Teachers entered the room with a Whip and Chair  .But I admit ,I DO know my onions ,Red ,Spring, or Spanish.
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| I think we should honour the said clause and move on. It can only further motivate a squad that is pretty well motivated to start with, to take a SL scalp.
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