See this is what people dont understand, we didnt have 6 months extra. We could only speak to players after the september deadline. IIRC the only players we could speak to before this was players over in Aus or players in their final year of a contract (which is hard as most are signed up long term these days). Its been reported we went for big named players with £££ thrown to them but they turned it down for bigger clubs and chance to win trophies, as Scooter Nik pointed out, the 1st year was always going to be hard, but hopefully next year we can turn it round and move up the table.

He's not exactly putting himself 'in the shop window' with the way Cas are shaping this season!! (and I appreciate this season should not be what he is judged on, for obvious reasons.)....I think he'll want the chance to put his own stamp on the squad next year - something that he wasn't afforded the time to do when he was at W*gan!!

Maybe they'll chuck money at the problem, and entice a top NRL coach over....or go for someone like Powell or Kear from Championship. Is there anyone else - beside Nobby - with a track-record, who's currently out of job? Did Justin Morgan go back to Aus?

Heard from a good source players are not listening and do not understand his tactics.Can't believe he is still in a job Betts.

Thing is with Betts is that he's not built up any 'good-will' with the speccies, 'cos he's never done anything!! At least if you'd gone up having won something during his tenure, there would be evidence of his ability as a coach!! He might see out the season, but I suspect you'll have someone new in charge come 2013!!

If people think that players cant be talked to before the 'deadline' they are sadly out of touch (agents can be spoken to).

But O'Connor must get rid of Betts and I have said so for ages, If Widnes fail then the SLE will use them as a bat to bludgeon the rest of Rugby League as they do not want P&R and want a smaller league.

I think Morgan is an assistant at Canberra Raiders.