Would imagine around Easter - let us all hope we are still solvent at that stage.

It wasn't suggested to be the junior centurions stand, the suggestion was for the north end of the east stand to be used as a family stand for certain matches following on from work done in the schools by the Leigh Youth and Community Trust , and Alan, you knew that

As for the assertion that free tickets ' always ' end up in the hands of regular fans, yes they do, if we continue with the ' lazy ' management style we have come accustomed to at Leigh Centurions, no disrespect here , but the initiatives we are currently witnessing do not impeed upon the matchday routines of the people who have come up with them

Support the community dept properly and I will personally get 4/500 families into the stadium with a guarantee that 99 % of the tickets given out dont get into the hands of people who are not entitled to have them

Ditto the away travel idea ( rather than blanket cheap tickets to all and sundry ) , bite the bullet and I will personally bring 4/500 away fans from the nearest other Championship clubs, keighley,Dewsbury,Batley,Fax and Fev, possibly more with the last 2

These two ideas, working together will give us 3/4 games with attendances closer to 4,000 than 3,000 , and will result in more Leigh fas in the future

when you say 'support' do you mean help with funding? or do you mean players going in with the community dep staff helping out ect..

He means the club to support the Community \dept

support them in what way though was my question? obviously the club cant afford to at the moment, but we should IMO help them and work with them in any way we can

Their services are free they are a seperate trust, the club just need to sign the agreement and their services are foc

Can you explain how this works? If they're a community group what do the club need to sign for? And if those numbers can be brought in by Starbug, why can't he just bring them in?

I'm not being facetious, it's a genuine question because I don't understand what it's all about.

I'd like to apologise to Alan over this part of my post, it was uncalled for and not fair on somebody that is doing some great work for the club

Same here, not too fussed on the figures but what would your ideas be and how would you persuade/drag them in?

I think we should look at targeting the 5-16 year olds. Its about getting them in the LSV and making them fans.

They have to 1st of all enjoy the day, so would you have a fun day kind of thing? Because the free kids that rfl ran last year was quite a good incentive

It all comes down to the providing of free adult tickets, to get the kids into the stadium the community dept needs to have them available if needed, all clubs , including ours dont like giving them out

It really comes down to a leap of faith by the club, they are scared that they will be abused and used by existing fans, I however believe that with a bit of common sense you could reduce the misuse of tickets to close to zero

So why the management seem reluctant to even try is a complete mystery to me

Ste, reread the post that was highlighted on the Sheffield idea yesterday the one on the VT, essentially they will look at who took up the deal, and target those groups next time

Now this information is happily shared between clubs marketing and community depts , so instead of clubs directors guessing at these things , all they have to do is ask, ask the experts what works and what doesn't

No disrespect but if you need a solicitor, you need them for a reason, it isn't an impulse decision, you dont think out of the blue " the weathers nice today and theres nothing on the telly I'll ring a solicitor," ditto cardboard boxes , you either need them for a reason or you dont, can you see where I'm going here? , maybe a policeman? , I doubt many people have ever thought, I've not spoken to the police for a while, I'll nip down the station

So decide what you want, tell the experts what you want, ask them what they need from you to achieve what you want, give it to them and let them get on with their job

It really is that simple