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Before we throw the boy on the scrap heap lets look at the model set by our friends down the road with Mr Hock. he now has a choice - carry on and remian a pariah or work at putting things right! Yes Govins been a complete tool, but he should be given help and support, IF HE WANTS IT!!!

FWIW - I agree with the comments on the hypocrisy or lack of understanding re. controlled substances, yes a line of coke is harmful but then again draping yourself over a bar and drinking 30 units of alcohol is equally harmful, argubly more so, yet one is illegal and 'performance enhancing', the other is all'reet and considered the stuff of a 'bit of a lad'.

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But he'll still be hanging around with the same old mates who are doing the same old thing , so the temptation to have another dabble is always there .

That's my theory on why so many who go into rehab or prison ( well maybe drugs are just as rife in there ) to get clean / dry out come out and hang out with the same old gang and are soon back to square one .

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Quote: tiswallace "But he'll still be hanging around with the same old mates who are doing the same old thing , so the temptation to have another dabble is always there .

That's my theory on why so many who go into rehab or prison ( well maybe drugs are just as rife in there ) to get clean / dry out come out and hang out with the same old gang and are soon back to square one .'"


I read a really good article in a paper on holiday a couple of years ago (can't remember which one or who by?) where the writer proposed that prisoners should be allowed, encouraged or even required to re-locate and set up a new life for themselves whilst on parole.

May have been in the US, where nipping back home isn't quite as easy because of the size of the country although, as the writer correctly pointed out, it would never work as some do-gooders would argue that it is against someone's human rights.

Think the article went on to suggest that a repeat offender (3 strikes and you're out) couldn't blame anyone/anything but themselves after a fresh start and should be imprisoned for life, regardless of their crime, which I felt may be a bit OTT?!

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Quote: tiswallace "But he'll still be hanging around with the same old mates who are doing the same old thing , so the temptation to have another dabble is always there .

That's my theory on why so many who go into rehab or prison ( well maybe drugs are just as rife in there ) to get clean / dry out come out and hang out with the same old gang and are soon back to square one .'"



who cares ??? if he can't see what he's done is completely stupid & nonsensical then why worry about him if he won't see the error of his ways ? Hock is the example to follow surely and give him our full support ? We are all capable of going off the rails,I should know but the idea is to learn from our mistakes.
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Early days with Hock so far.

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Quote: Dick Jones "Early days with Hock so far.'"


Not that early 2 years!! 1 of which he had to prove to the club he could sort himself out the second of which he has been working hard to get the message out to youngsters not to take drugs!!

When Hock was banned there was abig outcry unfortunately he was just one of many taking it in the sport! Many wont learn until they are caught sadly!

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