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| Quote: WOLRAB "If you love rugby league, which we all do on this forum then indeed the demise of any club is a sad day. However clubs will have to learn the hard way that chucking money around you have not got can only last for so long before it catches up with you.'"
Hmmmm I wonder how much is owed to AT in directors loans?
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
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| Quote: Scooter Nik "I can see the point that you are trying to make, but the 'trend' is largely in your head. Yes, these are good, solid amateur clubs, and yes they are all from traditional towns.
I find it interesting though, that in your haste to rubbish everyone outside the heartland, that you seem to have forgotten Coventry, Teeside, Hemel et al... I'm sure that it was an entirely genuine oversight, and not one made out bias though.'"
Not really Nik , just that Coventry , Teeside and Hemel arent a patch on any of the Heartland clubs I mentioned as regards playing standards
And I cant really see that changing for quite some time , you might get the odd player or two but team wise , nah | | |
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| Quote: Wembley71 "..you're missing the point. Pretty soon there won't be designated 'pro' or 'semi pro' or 'amateur' teams... clubs will pay if they can afford to. They might only pay winning money, or only pay one or two players. Teams will move up or down divisions based on results, albeit with some gateway criteria at key points. Wizards, playing at Wilderspool, might be promoted into the third tier, but then so might Coventry Bears or Teesside Steelers.'"
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| Quote: woolie "Wembley 71
Mm. Your delineation between a club and a company is not as clear as you think - clubs can pay contractors for services provided (coach hire, pitch hire, buying kit), and can equally pay players for services delivered on the field without necessarily being a company...
... but without going into the legal niceties, RL is one of the few sports that has a formal distinction between amateur and professional, and that's going to change. We'll be much more like soccer or rugby union, where clubs can come to local arrangements to pay players at whatever level they can afford.
My local (tier 9!) union club pays its coach £4k a year, and pays some of its players to play, and pays travel expenses for others. It turns over around £30k a year running two open age teams only.
At tier 5 and 6 (that's South West 1 and South West 2), where many RLC players come from, players regularly get winning money at least, of £50 up, and some are on match contracts of up to £250 per game. Coaches at that level are getting £15k for two sessions a week and a game.
Union, incidentally, has 5h1t-loads more money that we do... but the point is, clubs will pay what they can afford in league, too, and my bet is by 2015 players will be being paid down five or six divisions, even if not much.
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| Quote: Wembley71 "Mm. Your delineation between a club and a company is not as clear as you think - clubs can pay contractors for services provided (coach hire, pitch hire, buying kit), and can equally pay players for services delivered on the field without necessarily being a company...
... but without going into the legal niceties, RL is one of the few sports that has a formal distinction between amateur and professional, and that's going to change. We'll be much more like soccer or rugby union, where clubs can come to local arrangements to pay players at whatever level they can afford.
My local (tier 9!) union club pays its coach £4k a year, and pays some of its players to play, and pays travel expenses for others. It turns over around £30k a year running two open age teams only.
At tier 5 and 6 (that's South West 1 and South West 2), where many RLC players come from, players regularly get winning money at least, of £50 up, and some are on match contracts of up to £250 per game. Coaches at that level are getting £15k for two sessions a week and a game.
Union, incidentally, has 5h1t-loads more money that we do... but the point is, clubs will pay what they can afford in league, too, and my bet is by 2015 players will be being paid down five or six divisions, even if not much.'"
Thats pretty much what I wanted to express.
If you get a club a few tiers down willing to pay even winning money, you'll get the best players in the area, or you would hope. Easily good enough to challenge up to C1 if you have the revenue stream | | |
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| Quote: Dico "Thats pretty much what I wanted to express.
If you get a club a few tiers down willing to pay even winning money, you'll get the best players in the area, or you would hope. Easily good enough to challenge up to C1 if you have the revenue stream'"
Exactly. You might even get big business involved when they realise how little money it would take for so much success and exposure.
Think of Formula 1 - teams called Red Bull and (in days gone by) Bennetton, ot even TNS Llansantfryd (sp?) in Welsh footie.
A couple of Million quid from a certain building society and Cheltenham & Gloucester Warriors, or Bristol and West Sonics, could be in SuperLeague getting massive amounts of tv and press coverage every week. Cheaper than a tv ad campaign, that's certain! | | | |
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