i'd rather just concentrate on how we played - that's what bothers me and that is what will affect our final league position.

Stewart played for the pen 20 metres from our line - at a push it was 50:50 for a penalty - ot went against us and put us under pressure.

the watson one cost us a try - the player was all over him, then when he got up, watson played for the penalty and lost the ball - they scored

I just fear for us again - if we dont improve - not mainly by winning games but playing exciting watchable rugby - the crowds are already dying off...i'd give anything for the terzis/millward years when you got value for money - and the rugby paid dividends with some big crowds.

Agree completely.

Having criticised us signing Nanyn I thought he looked fitter than I expected, gave a good ball for Maden to go over in the corner, took his own try well barging over like we know he can, and helped us win a few short kickoffs, without which we'd have been dead and buried much earlier.

However, like Haven4ever I also thought he gifted Fev 2 tries down that side, looked a bit lazy in defence and slipped off some pretty ordinary but important tackles, and as we were on show for the whole RL world to see I wouldn't be surprised to see more teams targetting our right hand side now.

I really hope he comes good but I do still worry that we've signed another frustrating & inconsistent player that could lose us one game just as easily as winning us another. He seems certain to divide opinions amongst the fans, but I guess at least if people are arguing about Nanyn, Watto might get a bit more of a break.

Both Nanyn and Maden were at fault for those 2 tries but in defence of Nanyn he did score 2 and gave Maden a great offload, as for Watson that was clearly a penalty the player was all over him,plus did anyone else notice the ref was allowing a hell of alot of time for tacklers to release for both teams which slowed the game down,he actually shouted 2 at one tackle after what seemed an age then the ball was passed out {fev had the ball}and he let it go .

As well as kicking high to the left side and scooting past us in the middle, when our backs are turned! My betting is that Nanyn was quite high up in the tackle count, despite our weakness on that side - where we always seem to be out-numbered. Who is supposed to be helping the centre/wing out there?

I don't think it's as bad as people are making out although there is lots to look at and improve.

In defence we aren't too bad, Fev made too many breaks and we weren't alert enough (Fev's last try) and we just made bad calls (Morty). We aren't giving away as many penalties which is good to see.

We started the game well, applying lots of pressure but couldn't make anything of it which is disappointing - we need people offering options and people running angles just like Nanyn did for the 2nd of his try. I think we need a 6 playing at 6 - even if it is Ridyard because it's clear to see Donlan isn't suited to the role and would be more effective on the wing or centre.

Our forwards were quiet Hobson and Taylor in particular in attack and we need them laying a stronger platform for our backs. We need to get Stanton involved more, he's a great little player but doesn't see enough of the ball in enough space. Tony Stewart should be replaced by Donlan.

Nanyn will prove to be a good signing, I'll admit I wasn't a fan of his and wasn't pleased with the signing but he gives us what we lack near the line he scored two tries last night and created one with good centre play, I think he will be a great asset if we used him enough near the line.

Donlan to fullback,rudd to blackpool...and pray joe williams arrives soon.