FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Warrington Wolves > The Captain
Posts:11
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
RankPostsTeam
International Star1100No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2023Oct 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Big decision for any new coach is the small matter of the captain.

For me Hilly has never really cut it as captain, done his best to learn it on the job, but for me he's a follower not a leader.

Anyone else in house a new coach would consider, I would hope the new coach brings the captain with him.

NtW
RankPostsTeam
International Star530
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2021Feb 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
68425_1492931555.jpg
[url:17krqm04]http://www.warringtonrugbyheritage.com[/url:17krqm04] Dedicated to preserving the history of rugby league in Warrington:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_68425.jpg



We'll need 5 for McGuire's 'leadership team': Hill, Ratchford, Clark, Currie and our new half back, Thurston icon_smile.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Star538No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2019Mar 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
71414_1528274576.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_71414.jpg



I wouldn't say that Hilly has not been a good Captain. He is one of those follow me over the top types. Leads from the front as an example. Last year he was again excellent, leading a depleted pack. This year has been a year where his standard has dropped to those that are around him. I do not see any one person from the team that gets a grip and is more vocal.

I would keep Chris Hill as skipper certainly for the next 12 months.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach17281
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
38352_1407962301.jpg
Packs Win Games Great Packs Make All Backs Look Class #onceawirealwaysawire:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_38352.jpg



Club Captain but not a team captain imo.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator6047
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
66556_1331046115.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_66556.jpg

Moderator


Quote: kirtonLindseyWolf "I wouldn't say that Hilly has not been a good Captain. He is one of those follow me over the top types. Leads from the front as an example. Last year he was again excellent, leading a depleted pack. This year has been a year where his standard has dropped to those that are around him. I do not see any one person from the team that gets a grip and is more vocal.

I would keep Chris Hill as skipper certainly for the next 12 months.'"


I agree that his (very high (standard) has dropped this year and I wonder whether the captaincy has been a part of that?

A great prop but certainly no Morley and I understand that from a propping and captaincy POV they are huge boots to fill and it might be a bit of an unfair/unrealistic comparison given the relative ages and experiences of both players and the standard of their colleagues and the type of RL that we were playing at that time.

He'd still be my choice next year unless the new coach brings in a stellar signing to be his on field general.....here's hoping.

NtW
RankPostsTeam
International Star530
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2021Feb 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
68425_1492931555.jpg
[url:17krqm04]http://www.warringtonrugbyheritage.com[/url:17krqm04] Dedicated to preserving the history of rugby league in Warrington:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_68425.jpg



Quote: Uncle Rico "I agree that his (very high (standard) has dropped this year and I wonder whether the captaincy has been a part of that?

A great prop but certainly no Morley and I understand that from a propping and captaincy POV they are huge boots to fill and it might be a bit of an unfair/unrealistic comparison given the relative ages and experiences of both players and the standard of their colleagues and the type of RL that we were playing at that time.

He'd still be my choice next year unless the new coach brings in a stellar signing to be his on field general.....here's hoping.'"


I think we often overlook the importance of a proper pre-season. Hill will have had nothing like last year, along with a few key others. It played a major part in our sluggish start, and the (lack of) momentum we generated. Contrast that to 2016 for us/compare it to 2016 for Leeds. With our easier finish this year, and relative health of players, combined with a lack of international games for the majority you have to imagine, no disruption over Sandow/Brown, and a new coach to impress, and I think we'll start 2018 much stronger. That bodes well for all of next season IMO.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3648
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2018Apr 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
50409_1268084441.jpg
Deus Dat Incrementum:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50409.jpg



Probably something which can only be answered properly by those involved, but we never seemed to find the right replacement for Morley, who was always going to be a tough act to follow.

The Westwood / M Monaghan experiment failed miserably. That year, Monaghan the younger looked a de facto captain for most of the season but the following year he was clearly unhappy and he seemed a shadow of himself.

I've always been a big fan of Hill, long before he came to Warrington. But he has to shoulder some responsibility for this season.

The lack of any obvious alternatives does sum up the problems we have at the moment.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator4688No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:

Moderator


Ben Currie, methinks. Probably at least a year away, but he has a fine rugby brain, he is one of our best performers and is well respected.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach14130
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
26249_1542017975.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_26249.jpg



As a Captain, Hill, is out gunned in terms of SL experience.

Leeds - Danny Maguire (SL Experience 17 years, GF, WCC, CC)
Saints - Jon Wilkin (SL Experience 15 years, GF, WCC, CC)
Wigan - Sean O'Loughlin (SL Experience 15 years GF, WCC, CC)
Cas - Michael Shenton (SL Experience 14 years)
Wire - Adrian Morley - (SL/NRL Experience, 20 years, GF ,WCC, CC, NRL Premiership)

Wire - Chris Hill - (SL Experience 6 years CC)

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach17281
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
38352_1407962301.jpg
Packs Win Games Great Packs Make All Backs Look Class #onceawirealwaysawire:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_38352.jpg



Quote: Wires71 "As a Captain, Hill, is out gunned in terms of SL experience.

Leeds - Danny Maguire (SL Experience 17 years, GF, WCC, CC)
Saints - Jon Wilkin (SL Experience 15 years, GF, WCC, CC)
Wigan - Sean O'Loughlin (SL Experience 15 years GF, WCC, CC)
Cas - Michael Shenton (SL Experience 14 years)
Wire - Adrian Morley - (SL/NRL Experience, 20 years, GF ,WCC, CC, NRL Premiership)

Wire - Chris Hill - (SL Experience 6 years CC)'"

We were never CC winners under Hill....so zero imo.
However he is fantastic with the kid fans.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3261
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
36947_1265606585.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_36947.jpg



I think we did win the 2012 cup with Hill in the team just not as Captain. His first season?

Posts:11
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Posts:11
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.45556640625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
2025 merchandise
Big lads mat
15
8m
Ground Improvements
Trojan Horse
161
22m
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5584
55m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40745
55m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63238
56m
Film game
Boss Hog
5670
57m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
27
Recent
2025 Shirt
Choc Ice
19
Recent
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
Recent
Salford
Uncle Rico
20
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4029
2m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40745
3m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
27
3m
Accounts
Greg Florimo
135
4m
War of the Roses
sally cinnam
35
5m
Planning for next season
Jack Gaskell
180
9m
Salford
Uncle Rico
20
11m
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
3
11m
Its all gone a bit quiet
orangeman
22
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
27
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Uncle Rico
20
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
49
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
926
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
578
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1308
England's Women Demolish The W..
1141
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1373
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1168
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1423
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1970
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2174
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2416
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1986
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2223
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2690
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2118
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2187
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 2,287 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 2nd Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
04:30
Penrith
v
Cronulla
06:30
Canberra
v
NZ Warriors
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
09:00
Sydney
v
Brisbane
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
07:00
Wests
v
Newcastle
09:00
Dolphins
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
2025 merchandise
Big lads mat
15
8m
Ground Improvements
Trojan Horse
161
22m
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5584
55m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40745
55m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63238
56m
Film game
Boss Hog
5670
57m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
27
Recent
2025 Shirt
Choc Ice
19
Recent
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
Recent
Salford
Uncle Rico
20
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4029
2m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40745
3m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
27
3m
Accounts
Greg Florimo
135
4m
War of the Roses
sally cinnam
35
5m
Planning for next season
Jack Gaskell
180
9m
Salford
Uncle Rico
20
11m
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
3
11m
Its all gone a bit quiet
orangeman
22
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
27
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Uncle Rico
20
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
49
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
926
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
578
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1308
England's Women Demolish The W..
1141
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1373
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1168
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1423
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1970
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2174
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2416
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1986
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2223
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2690
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2118
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2187


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!