Does this mean teams are learning or that refs are just not arrised after just a month? I asked elsewhere, wasn't there meant to be a crackdown on the rucks, because Saints, Wigan and Cats are still slowing teams down awfully with no repercussions.

I was saying this to someone y’day. That Leeds/Saints game was so different in the 2nd half with Saints laying on that long I thought they had fallen asleep. I knew Leeds needed to have scored more points in the 1st half because I knew the way it would be played when they came back out.

The best way to make the RFL deal with this borefest of lying on by certain clubs (We all know who they are), is for the other clubs to imitate this tactic, so that the product is unwatchable and SKY complain that the games aren`t providing the required level of entertainment to their viewing audience.

Better still when we play Saints and beat them.

It’s never your fault, it’s never your fault,
Saints getting beaten, is never your fault.
Repeat.

It just wouldn't work though, the opposition would just get pinged for it when the usual get away with it because of "dominant tackles" which are an absolute nonsense. The only way to get rid of the absolute bore fest is to abolish the arbitrary dominant tackle and start penalising the usual suspects for laying on like they do every one else. We all know that won't happen.

I think we're trying to set some sort of record. Let's face it, most bans and cards is the only thing we're likely to win!

Exactly. It's clear when a defending team is doing it, it's obvious. The are holding down the player usually with their head swivelling around to look at their defensive line. There is a clear pause in the action of about 3 - 4 seconds.

It could be solved easily. Just a few penalties and players would have to adapt. Soon as the ref shouts "held" players have to get off quickly. None of this trapped arm nonsense, or accidentally causing hindrance to the attacking player.

It's killing the spectacle of the game.

Quote: scarrie " Let's face it, most bans and cards is the only thing we're likely to win!'" Hull FC are leading on this one ( Admittedly due to the suspensions and injuries) :- https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ra ... ed-in-2024

Quote: scarrie " Let's face it, most bans and cards is the only thing we're likely to win!'" Hull FC are leading on this one ( Admittedly due to the suspensions and injuries) :- https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ra ... ed-in-2024

Interesting that Leeds are way down on that list, considering they used to be full of local homegrown talent. Which adds to the theory of the best teams having the most successful academy products. Leeds haven’t been good for a few years now, and Rohan Smith seems to prefer journeymen. Unless it’s not his call of course.

If journeymen are better than your youth players are likely to get then you're better off with journeymen with the youth players to deputise for injuries and make the squad a bit bigger.

I would say that leeds' youth issues are because they haven't been as good at young player recruitment and scouting as they used to be. Or maybe that Saints, Wigan and even us have got better at that.

https://www.rugby-league.com/article/62 ... view-panel

https://www.rugby-league.com/article/62 ... view-panel

Vaughan helps someone up - 4 matches. Daryl Clark hits someone who is off the pitch from behind and over the advertising hoardings….not even a mention. Woeful.

Well the usual suspects are not happy about the Bell ban.

I still like Clark, but he should have copped a couple of games minimum

Saints appealing ofc they are.