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Just listening to Shaun Wane on super league podcast, i love his passion, would love him at wire.

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Quote: rubber duckie " Releasing Atkins was to have zero effect on the remainder of our season...he wasn't going to get a game at Warrington and I feel the club had a moral obligation to let Atkins have an influence on his future to help keep Wakey in SL'"


Its not so much the releasing of Atkins that I had an issue with, it was the not replacing him on the cap.

We could have replaced Brown (Hindsight is a wonderful thing) earlier in the season, we could have also used the salaries from removing Johnson and Atkins on the cap. Seems strange to me that we didn't, its not like we need to cut costs. Brown especially turned out to be a judgement call we got horribly wrong.

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Quote: Alffi_7 "Its not so much the releasing of Atkins that I had an issue with, it was the not replacing him on the cap.

We could have replaced Brown (Hindsight is a wonderful thing) earlier in the season, we could have also used the salaries from removing Johnson and Atkins on the cap. Seems strange to me that we didn't, its not like we need to cut costs. Brown especially turned out to be a judgement call we got horribly wrong.'"



It can't be hindsight as people were calling for this at the time. In fact it was foresight.

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Quote: Briers'Boot "Just listening to Shaun Wane on super league podcast, i love his passion, would love him at wire.'"

When Henderson came I fully expected to see good rugby. Not happened unfortunately I enjoy watching teams like Cas, Salford,Saints and yes even Wigan. Get rid of Price and Briers ( happy to be a number 2 forever ) whose contribution needs to be seriously questioned. Very happy with a Wayne/Henderson team.

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We're that turgid that id nearly rather watch Peaky Blinders.

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What players were available to replace Brown that we should have brought in, who would have made a difference?

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Depends what you define as 'available'. Our financial clout means most players should be 'available'.

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Quote: Briers'Boot "Just listening to Shaun Wane on super league podcast, i love his passion, would love him at wire.'"

used to hate him and wouldn't have ever DREAMED of having him as warrington coach.

i would take him in a heartbeat as next seasons coach now.

That will to win and drive is exactly what we need... im sick of turning up and seeing abject performances.... I want my coach to be going in there and tearing these lot a new one.

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If I remember correctly on the eve of the start of the season Rankin moved to cas to replace Gale so that was about the only option. I guess we thought that Patton could hold the Fort in the hope that Brown would be back by July.
The problem we had is that we announced widdop so early so we backed ourself into a corner a little bit there.
On the subject of a potential new coach I recently saw M Monas as coach back at Manly. Now he has been to Wakey, Catalan and back in the NRL. Natural progression is back over here in a head coach role before taking a head coach gig in the NRL.
Just an observation!

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Quote: ratticusfinch "Depends what you define as 'available'. Our financial clout means most players should be 'available'.'"


No they aren't, unless we have space under the salary cap, and also other clubs won't release players.

Do you really think that we had the ability to go and bring in a superstar halfback but we chose not to because we wanted to go with Patton...

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Quote: ratticusfinch "Depends what you define as 'available'. Our financial clout means most players should be 'available'.'"


All of the better options were tied up on contracts with absolutely no chance of signing a replacement for whoever we signed a player from! The fact of the matter is as third choice halfback go, patton is one of the best in the league, perhaps Richardson is better, but why would saints have sold him to us at that point and I bet afte this exploits the previous season he probably had absolutely no desire to come to wire. Browns injury came too late for us to react by signing a new player.

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Regarding Brown, when it became obvious they needed recruits Leeds went out and signed half a dozen new first teamers.

All of whom were pretty good quality, signed at short notice and in one case [ia half back from SL opposition.[/i I'm aware they had to cook the books to create salary space, but they just got on with it and did what was necessary.

Face it, Price gambled on Patton delivering and they both failed.

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Well I guess its a difference in philosophy. What do you do when you have a young talent on your books. Do you give him a chance to see how he develops or do you sign whoever is available, even if they aren't elite players, to take the security.

If we had done the latter I wonder if it would now been part of the charge sheet against Price - there would still be people thinking Patton could have developed in to a top class talent if only he'd been given a chance but typical Wire decide to ruin him.

At least now we know what Patton is (an OK player who can be a decent understudy at SL level) and what he isn't (another Briers/Burrow/McGuire type talent). Surely as Wire fans we want home grown talent to be given a chance, or would we rather have a coach who just takes the safe option.

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Well Price could've given him half a season, more than enough to see his huge limitations, and then go looking for 'unavailable' players which Leeds/Wigan/London/Salford/Hull could clearly find...or play Riley Dean, or move Mamo to FB and put Ratch in the halves.

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Quote: ratticusfinch "Well Price could've given him half a season, more than enough to see his huge limitations, and then go looking for 'unavailable' players which Leeds/Wigan/London/Salford/Hull could clearly find...or play Riley Dean, or move Mamo to FB and put Ratch in the halves.'"

Mamo at fullback? Whatever the question is that can’t be the answer.

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