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| Quote Gazwire="Gazwire"I've answered the f@@king question about 50 times in the past 2 weeks. To say once again, there were shoots in the Cats game, but mainly that patience is required when making a large upheaval.
For the last f@@king time, I'm not defending Powell this week or last, I'm defending a coaches right (any) to be given time. But I also respect the opinion that it has been disappointing, and I agree with this.'"
so would you have given Steve Anderson (35.2% over 34 games) and David plange (25% over 16 games) more time???
the latter putting us in a relegation dog fight after his predecessor bought a crap atmosphere into the club.
Paul Cullen secured the safety with 6 games by winning 2 of them.
change is needed now to steady the ship because, at present. I don't know where our next win is coming from
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| Quote Barbed Wire="Barbed Wire"I’m not sure you can harbour your views on Powell‘a credentials if you’re writing off Tony Smith for having an indifferent year with Hull KR.'"
I was being facetious. I was using the same barometer some others are using to judge Powell - just over half a season.
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| Quote ratticusfinch="ratticusfinch"Pack it in. The upheaval was of his own making….and I get a feeling he’s making it up as he goes along.'"
Of course we didn't need upheaval - we've been doing really well over the past 6/7 odd years.
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| Quote Gazwire="Gazwire"I too share these concerns and I think he's made mistakes. But his track record over the long period shows overall improvement with all the clubs he's been at. I'm hoping/thinking he'll learn.'"
He shouldn’t be needing to learn to help us avoid relegation!!! We cannot get absolute basics right. This is just a bad fit like Damned United and we need to hurry up and accept it.
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| Quote wire2004="wire2004"so would you have given Steve Anderson (35.2% over 34 games) and David plange (25% over 16 games) more time???
the latter putting us in a relegation dog fight after his predecessor bought a crap atmosphere into the club.
Paul Cullen secured the safety with 6 games by winning 2 of them.
change is needed now to steady the ship because, at present. I don't know where our next win is coming from'"
Difference is, Powell has a track record of improving sides and playing attractive rugby over 20 odd years.
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| Quote Gazwire="Gazwire"I was being facetious. I was using the same barometer some others are using to judge Powell - just over half a season.'"
It’s well over half a season and he knew he was coming half a season before that. I could give you tens of examples of recent SL coaches turning around teams in half the time and you know that.
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| Quote ratticusfinch="ratticusfinch"WHAT ARE THE SHOOTS???? That’s not a pop I genuinely want to know what the plus side of this season is that you see that I don’t. You haven’t said anything specific in that regard.'"
In the Catalan game we won for a start, and played some better rugby than previous games - that pretty much constitutes shoots - ie signs of things getting better.
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| Quote ratticusfinch="ratticusfinch"It’s well over half a season and he knew he was coming half a season before that. I could give you tens of examples of recent SL coaches turning around teams in half the time and you know that.'"
Have any of them made the massive changes we've made?
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| Quote ratticusfinch="ratticusfinch"He shouldn’t be needing to learn to help us avoid relegation!!! We cannot get absolute basics right. This is just a bad fit like Damned United and we need to hurry up and accept it.'"
So you believe that coaches and anybody else for that matter don't make mistakes? Especially in a new situation where he's tasked with making a clear out. Do you think this was all under Powell's volition, and that the board weren't party to this cultural change? I think you'll find many fans were clamouring for big changes too.
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| Quote Gazwire="Gazwire"I was being facetious. I was using the same barometer some others are using to judge Powell - just over half a season.'"
Facetious though it may be, Smith’s team won as many games as we have to date before the end of April. Not including cup.
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| Quote Gazwire="Gazwire"Difference is, Powell has a track record of improving sides and playing attractive rugby over 20 odd years.'"
Tony Smith has a track record of steadying the ship. bringing a challenge cup home to Warrington in 4 months. play attractive rugby. bring in 3 challenge cups. 3 grand final appearances and 2 league leaders shields. then come back after falling out of love with the game. and take a 10th place team to within 80 mins of a grand final.
Id of accepted playoffs at the beginning of the year as i understood it was a transition year. but not what is being served up at this moment.
something needs to be done before its too late.
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| Quote Gazwire="Gazwire"Have any of them made the massive changes we've made?'"
You make my argument for me. Massive change WASNT needed. Yes we got knocked out of the play offs etc etc but we were qualifying for them consistently and making finals.
Madness to think such a radical overhaul was needed for a team in touching distance in modern RL. Look at Wigan this year, a bit of good man management and careful tweaks and it’s a completely different story.
We’ve gone from nearly men to soon to be relegated.
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