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My mate at work just came up with Vinny Jones,
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and very fine Actor..............

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robbie savage
has made millions running round lack a headless chicken fouling people.not an ounce of talent,possibly the worst player i've ever seen.

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Lee Briers has made the best out of limited talent, pure and simple.

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Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "Lee Briers has made the best out of limited talent, pure and simple.'"



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Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "Lee Briers has made the best out of limited talent, pure and simple.'"




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Quote: 'Hitman' Norvern Soul "wrong way round'"


Why is it, Briers has limited talent and the way folk go on about him he's made the most of it........ he's no world beater.

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Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "Why is it, Briers has limited talent and the way folk go on about him he's made the most of it........ he's no world beater.'"


I think even the biggest Briers basher (you aside), say someone like Wires71 who's been a critic over time, I think he'd even admit that Briers has more natural talent than 99% of the halfbacks that have played in SL & for GB in the last decade.

Briers talent has never been in question, his attitude & dedication have.

I've said this to you before, your sort of borderline hatred for Briers, well, it really clouds your judgement. You come across so bitter towards him, I just can't work out if this is intentional or not.

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Quote: JWP "I think even the biggest Briers basher (you aside), say someone like Wires71 who's been a critic over time, I think he'd even admit that Briers has more natural talent than 99% of the halfbacks that have played in SL & for GB in the last decade.

Briers talent has never been in question, his attitude & dedication have.

I've said this to you before, your sort of borderline hatred for Briers, well, it really clouds your judgement. You come across so bitter towards him, I just can't work out if this is intentional or not.'"


I have always maintained Briers is mercurial. He clearly is very talented but I have questions over his application and professionalism to make it to the very top of the sport. He clearly found a comfort zone at Warrington.

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Quote: Wires71 "I have always maintained Briers is mercurial. He clearly is very talented but I have questions over his application and professionalism to make it to the very top of the sport. He clearly found a comfort zone at Warrington.'"


But he has made it to the top of the sport. He has played international rugby and there is no higher level.

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Quote: mark_m "But he has made it to the top of the sport. He has played international rugby and there is no higher level.'"


This is a wind up, surely? He's played for Wales a few times, but he's hardly set Test Match Rugby alight, has he? That is the point we are making, that with attitude and application, he'd have done so much more within the game.

I also think Danny Orr never fully realised the early potential he showed at Cas.

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Quote: Big Ask "Not wishing to be confusing, it really about who has made the most of their career? Now this maybe someone who has achieved a huge amount and been fairly talented, or someone who has had an OK career but basically talentless.

It's not about being critical, this is the inverse of those who have had huge talent but done very little with it.

I'll start...................Paul Wellens.'"


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Quote: 'Hitman' Norvern Soul "This is a wind up, surely? He's played for Wales a few times, but he's hardly set Test Match Rugby alight, has he? That is the point we are making, that with attitude and application, he'd have done so much more within the game.

I also think Danny Orr never fully realised the early potential he showed at Cas.'"
He ran australia ragged for 40 minutes in what was a very limited welsh team. I seem to recall the australians saying he was the best british half back they had come across in the past ten years. I'll take their opinion over anybody on this forum. (no names mentioned)

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