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Quote: Alffi_7 "If initial contact was above the knee what can the panel do? We're not banning people for swinging arms that miss, or high tackles that 'almost' make contact with the head? There has to be a cut off point of contact that is acceptable, above the knee has been decided to be ok, so he can't be banned for it.

If he gets one wrong he'll get a big ban, but you can't ban him because he might get it wrong.

It's clear that the entire town of St Helens want him chased out of the country for knocking them out of the Challenge Cup last year - the healthy thing is to let it go.'"

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Absolutely well said Alffi_7. https://twitter.com/i/status/1764706997042114725
Quote: Alffi_7 "If initial contact was above the knee what can the panel do? We're not banning people for swinging arms that miss, or high tackles that 'almost' make contact with the head? There has to be a cut off point of contact that is acceptable, above the knee has been decided to be ok, so he can't be banned for it.

If he gets one wrong he'll get a big ban, but you can't ban him because he might get it wrong.

It's clear that the entire town of St Helens want him chased out of the country for knocking them out of the Challenge Cup last year - the healthy thing is to let it go.'"

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Absolutely well said Alffi_7. https://twitter.com/i/status/1764706997042114725


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Quote: Alffi_7 "If initial contact was above the knee what can the panel do? '"


The technique itself is banned. You aren't allowed to spear your bodyweight at the ball carriers legs, ban him for that and the clear intent. They acknowledge the intent and the danger to the ball carrier and still decide to let him off. Even if they decide they can't ban him due to sticking religiously to the framework, just issue him a warning not to tackle like that. The puerile, childish reponses from the usual suspects on here just show how bitter some of you are towards Saints. It's hilarious when it's a Saints player out of the game for 9 months+ and spending 4 months struggling to walk, with no date for a return still. If it's Hayes' knee he points backwards or Ashton's or Lindop's career he ends? I suspect you won't find it as funny then.

Quote: Alffi_7 "If he gets one wrong he'll get a big ban, but you can't ban him because he might get it wrong. '"


The fact he's attempting to do it again is bad enough, why should they wait until he's disabled someone or ruined a second career before acting? Given the context as well, his first involvement against Saints since he injured four players in one game with it, and he goes straight for the knee of another player? It's odd that it's allowed in an age where the RFL is supposedly working to improve player welfare. Your opinions on it would do a 180 very quickly if it wasn't Saints, or if it was Saints tackling like that.

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Quote: Cokey "Then this one when Charnley is nearly crippled.'"


Grow up. They cleared that one as there is no head contact at all. The other Hurrell challenge he's been banned for. The fact a Saints player gets a ban or commits a bad challenge doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on Asiata. I get blindly defending your own players, I do it plenty, but you're wrong on this one. Asiata shouldn't be tackling like that.

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Quote: Saddened! "Grow up. They cleared that one as there is no head contact at all. The other Hurrell challenge he's been banned for. The fact a Saints player gets a ban or commits a bad challenge doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on Asiata. I get blindly defending your own players, I do it plenty, but you're wrong on this one. Asiata shouldn't be tackling like that.'"

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Quote: Saddened! "The technique itself is banned. You aren't allowed to spear your bodyweight at the ball carriers legs,

The fact he's attempting to do it again is bad enough, why should they wait until he's disabled someone or ruined a second career before acting?'"


You mean like this? You must have overlooked this? This is the tackle that's outlawed.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1764706997042114725
Quote: Saddened! "The technique itself is banned. You aren't allowed to spear your bodyweight at the ball carriers legs,

The fact he's attempting to do it again is bad enough, why should they wait until he's disabled someone or ruined a second career before acting?'"


You mean like this? You must have overlooked this? This is the tackle that's outlawed.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1764706997042114725


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Quote: Cokey "You mean like this? You must have overlooked this? This is the tackle that's outlawed.


They looked at that as well and cleared it. If he gets banned for that, fine, there will be multiple questionable challenges in a game but there's a world of difference in the speed and aggression in that and what Asiata is doing. It's like showing a guy driving at 32 in a 30 in protest at him moaning about someone doing 70 into a bus stop. Asiata is just recklessly throwing his weight through the leg of the ball carrier, from an angle where the joint cannot bend. It's a really stupid way to tackle for his own health, but even more so for the ball carriers. Passi is still in a knee brace and it's coming up to a year since he did that to him. I don't see why you're defending him to this extent. Can you not see how idiotic it is, even generally, excluding the fact he chose to do it first challenge against us?

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Quote: Saddened! "They looked at that as well and cleared it. If he gets banned for that, fine, there will be multiple questionable challenges in a game but there's a world of difference in the speed and aggression in that and what Asiata is doing. It's like showing a guy driving at 32 in a 30 in protest at him moaning about someone doing 70 into a bus stop. Asiata is just recklessly throwing his weight through the leg of the ball carrier, from an angle where the joint cannot bend. It's a really stupid way to tackle for his own health, but even more so for the ball carriers. Passi is still in a knee brace and it's coming up to a year since he did that to him. I don't see why you're defending him to this extent. Can you not see how idiotic it is, even generally, excluding the fact he chose to do it first challenge against us?'"


Asiata's tackle was on his thigh end of, no charge.

We'll be playing this next. eusa_hand.gif If he doesn't jump, he gets tackled around the waist. He jumps, and gets tackled on the thigh......Checkmate.

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Quote: Saddened! "Dead funny and something to laugh about because it's Saints.'"

Your own fans loudly applauded/cheered/laughed when the player hobbled off injured on Friday. Take your double standards elsewhere.

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Quote: Cokey "Hang on
No, he doesn't. You're just refusing to see it for what it is because it's a Leigh player. He's very low, Mata'utia deliberately doesn't put his foot down, because he knows what Asiata is doing and takes his other foot off the floor and is falling by the time he makes contact. If he planted his leg in his normal stride he'd have had his leg badly damaged, likely broken.

You're obsessing over the height of the challenge. Whether it's an inch above the knee or an inch below the knee isn't going to change a thing. His head might hit the thigh, but his shoulder is right into the knee joint and there's no attempt to wrap the arms. The RFL even state it's not a genuine attempt at a tackle and is likely to cause injury. If he hits that with the studs in contact with the ground (As they would have been if he'd put his foot down), the knee is being destroyed. This isn't just me, look at Twitter, there are tons of genuine neutrals who agree it's incredibly dangerous. Paul Cooke, the former Hull favourite, is one, he isn't bitter about Saints losing to Leigh in the cup, he probably loved that. He needs to change his technique before he does something catestrophic. He's incredibly lucky Mata'utia isn't seriously injured.

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Quote: matt_wire "Your own fans loudly applauded/cheered/laughed when the player hobbled off injured on Friday. Take your double standards elsewhere.'"


Like we're the only ones to do that icon_lol.gif

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Quote: matt_wire "Your own fans loudly applauded/cheered/laughed when the player hobbled off injured on Friday. Take your double standards elsewhere.'"


If this is true they are certainly the dregs. I have my suspicions they are anyway, but this would confirm it.

The usual form is to clap an injured player off the field not jeer. These are sportsman risking serious injury.

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