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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"Play-off rugby is where intensity lifts and the defence comes to the fore.
Lower scoring games, and defence wins.
I like everything Sam and his support have gone about our season. Minus the huge blip at Wembley and the after effects. Also the fatigue blip vs KR at home.
Constantly evolving and building to shape for one thing, which Sam won’t say.
None of the top 3 will have an easier chance to win a GF however all 3 are in a different mini league to the rest, who are playing it out for place money. Imo.
This is a type of team I don’t think I’ve ever seen at Warrington before. No ‘bad apples’ no player egos. Grit and endurance that typically isn’t the Warrington thing..,,
And I love it.'"
That couldn't be more untrue.
The team finishing 3rd has to play one more game than the teams 1st and 2nd - By definition, it will therefore be harder to win it. In theory, Warrington could have to go through St Helens, Hull KR and Wigan to win it...
Additionally, one of the top 2 could get an easier run dependent on how the first round of play offs go.
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| Would have preferred to play the Pies in the semi-finals and get that game out of the way, win or lose.
Hull KR losing on Friday night now means that it is highly unlikely we will play Wigan until the Final (If we get there)
A Wire v Hull KR final would have much better for the games` profile with the current monopoly of only a few clubs winning the Grand Final.
With both clubs odds on to finish 2nd & 3rd, they are destined to play each other in the semi-finals unfortunately.
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| Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"That couldn't be more untrue.
The team finishing 3rd has to play one more game than the teams 1st and 2nd - By definition, it will therefore be harder to win it. In theory, Warrington could have to go through St Helens, Hull KR and Wigan to win it...
Additionally, one of the top 2 could get an easier run dependent on how the first round of play offs go.'"
“Untrue”?
Or not in your opinion!
The key word in your reply is “could” x2, and the phrase “in theory” which indicates you have nothing to prove it’s untrue.
While the key acronym in my post is “imo” which means, I never said it was a fact or truth, but my opinion.
And I stand by my “imo” because your post ‘couldn't be more untrue’ or farther from my changing my mind.

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| It's clearly statistically more unlikely to win 3 games in a row than two so long as the chance of winning the 1st game is < 100%. We had a real chance at top 2 and, unfortunately for us, we didn't take it. Being honest I think Wigan and Hull KR are the stronger sides over the course of the season.
Two years or so ago (11/8/2022) we were tussling for 11th in the league. That is one turnaround.
If we can win ONE playoff game that is more than we have done since 2018.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"“Untrue”?
Or not in your opinion!
The key word in your reply is “could” x2, and the phrase “in theory” which indicates you have nothing to prove it’s untrue.
While the key acronym in my post is “imo” which means, I never said it was a fact or truth, but my opinion.
And I stand by my “imo” because your post ‘couldn't be more untrue’ or farther from my changing my mind.
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What are you talking about? My use of could and in theory are because I cannot be certain and there are multiple scenarios.
Statistically speaking you are completely wrong. Even when you ignore statistics you are wrong.
You honestly think Warrington have a 33.33% chance of winning the grand final? Despite finishing 3rd, having never won it before and having to play 1 extra game than the teams finishing 1st or 2nd?
The bookies completely disagree also.
Wigan 10/11
Hull KR 11/4
Warrington 4/1
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| Quote Boss Hog="Boss Hog"Would have preferred to play the Pies in the semi-finals and get that game out of the way, win or lose.
Hull KR losing on Friday night now means that it is highly unlikely we will play Wigan until the Final (If we get there)
A Wire v Hull KR final would have much better for the games` profile with the current monopoly of only a few clubs winning the Grand Final.
With both clubs odds on to finish 2nd & 3rd, they are destined to play each other in the semi-finals unfortunately.'"
Really?
How will the games profile improve in that scenario?
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| Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"Really?
How will the games profile improve in that scenario?'"
Here's an example for you, 'it would change the narrative'...how the sport reflects on that and uses it is a different matter.
I understand that Wigan are the world's biggest club but taking us out of the equation, a win for Hull KR might incentivise others to have a real 'go' in future on the basis that their renaissance is well earned and come no too long after O'Brien's boot consigned them to lower league rugby.
They'd be worthy winners this year I'd also suggest that IF we got there folk couldn't cock a snoot at us and the work that Burgess and Co have put in.
It may suit my narrative but IMO the sport needs the monopoly to broken by having a selection of stronger, capable teams and well run clubs that succeed on merit rather than the familiar accusation of the lower level clubs dragging everyone down to their level. A couple of thousand on each gate, more TV viewing, pushing revenue streams instead of it (us) being pushed around.
A pipe dream perhaps but a GF of Wigan v Saints won't deliver anything for the game as a whole
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| Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"Really?
How will the games profile improve in that scenario?'"
I can see you’re taking offence but I can’t make ou why.
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| Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"
You honestly think Warrington have a 33.33% chance of winning the grand final? Despite finishing 3rd, having never won it before and having to play 1 extra game than the teams finishing 1st or 2nd?
The bookies completely disagree also.
Wigan 10/11
Hull KR 11/4
Warrington 4/1'"
If anything I think the bookies are overly generous to Warrington. Implied probability in %.
Wigan 10/11 52.4%
Hull KR 11/4 26.7%
Warrington 4/1 20.0%
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| Quote Uncle Rico="Uncle Rico"Here's an example for you, 'it would change the narrative'...how the sport reflects on that and uses it is a different matter.
I understand that Wigan are the world's biggest club but taking us out of the equation, a win for Hull KR might incentivise others to have a real 'go' in future on the basis that their renaissance is well earned and come no too long after O'Brien's boot consigned them to lower league rugby.
They'd be worthy winners this year I'd also suggest that IF we got there folk couldn't cock a snoot at us and the work that Burgess and Co have put in.
It may suit my narrative but IMO the sport needs the monopoly to broken by having a selection of stronger, capable teams and well run clubs that succeed on merit rather than the familiar accusation of the lower level clubs dragging everyone down to their level. A couple of thousand on each gate, more TV viewing, pushing revenue streams instead of it (us) being pushed around.
A pipe dream perhaps but a GF of Wigan v Saints won't deliver anything for the game as a whole'"
Exactly the sport is crying out for a new name on the title. It's been a 3 horse race for 20 years.
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| Quote Uncle Rico="Uncle Rico"Here's an example for you, 'it would change the narrative'...how the sport reflects on that and uses it is a different matter.
I understand that Wigan are the world's biggest club but taking us out of the equation, a win for Hull KR might incentivise others to have a real 'go' in future on the basis that their renaissance is well earned and come no too long after O'Brien's boot consigned them to lower league rugby.
They'd be worthy winners this year I'd also suggest that IF we got there folk couldn't cock a snoot at us and the work that Burgess and Co have put in.
It may suit my narrative but IMO the sport needs the monopoly to broken by having a selection of stronger, capable teams and well run clubs that succeed on merit rather than the familiar accusation of the lower level clubs dragging everyone down to their level. A couple of thousand on each gate, more TV viewing, pushing revenue streams instead of it (us) being pushed around.
A pipe dream perhaps but a GF of Wigan v Saints won't deliver anything for the game as a whole'"
Plenty of outsiders have gotten to grand finals, albeit not won it, and that hasn't achieved what you are saying. Surely based on your theory Hull, Salford, Catalans, Warrington and Castleford should have upped their game and won it by now? Or does it only apply once you have won it?
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| Quote Captain Hook="Captain Hook"I can see you’re taking offence but I can’t make ou why.'"
Because I am trying to decipher between theory and reality.
If Warrington or Hull win it, for the first time, what will actually happen to realistically change the games profile?
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