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| Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "No we don't have a problem, now that Penny has gone.'"
shows your knowledge really, how can king be covering for for penny when penny is winger and king is centre, that means when gaps appear outside the winger, centre and 2nd row be must out of position.
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| Quote: the flying biscuit "No I save them for LWF youve only just started talking nonsense he's been doing it for months........ stick around for a while I'll see what I can come up with......
you might have missed King coughing up the ball in our own quarter yesterday.......but I loved his apology so I didnt think it was important.....'"
name me one player who has never done that ?
they all do it, it is just the regularity of said offence.
some more than others.
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| Quote: the flying biscuit "No I save them for LWF youve only just started talking nonsense he's been doing it for months........ stick around for a while I'll see what I can come up with......
you might have missed King coughing up the ball in our own quarter yesterday.......but I loved his apology so I didnt think it was important.....'"
I think LWF is the worst poster on here in truth. I liked Padders, I thought he was daft at times, and one eyed but I liked his passion, and I thought from time to time he made decent points. What he was prepared to do was at least attempt to see other people's point of view.
What LWF is, is a cheap immitation, minus the likeable bits. If it was me, I would wonder why on every topic I comment on, it's me vs 1000. The fact that LWF thinks that this adds further proof that he's the knowledgable one, and doesn't make him question himself tells me everything I need to know about him.
The fact that, in a pyramid of knowledge that he created/made up, he placed himself in the same bracket at SJM, Hoyle, Gatcliffe, well, that's the stuff that padded cells are made of.
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| Quote: JWP "I think LWF is the worst poster on here in truth. I liked Padders, I thought he was daft at times, and one eyed but I liked his passion, and I thought from time to time he made decent points. What he was prepared to do was at least attempt to see other people's point of view.'"
I accept other points of view, i told Dave T "Good point well made" that seems to me that i accepted his opinion.
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| Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "I accept other points of view, i told Dave T "Good point well made" that seems to me that i accepted his opinion.'"
You didn't.
You agreed with his point, then showed yourself up again by banging on about how King had been a revelation for Melbourne on the wing, and how previous coaches were to blame for Kings form, as they'd played him out of position at centre.
Then, later in the thread, when picked up about Penny again, you go on about King, and how his poor form at centre has been because he's been covering for Kevin Penny, and that's why his decision making & positional play have left a lot to be desired.
You basically, don't like individuals, you make ti perfectly clear, and even when presented with pretty good points, resort to "Well, in my opinion, Kevin Penny is the weakest ...."
Kevin Penny has not played for Warrington Wolves in a side that has had a solid defensive structure, that he could become part of. The problems that Penny encountered, Matt King encountered against Catalans at home. They scored a try that floated over & past him and he looked the preverbial idiot torn between staying out wide, or closing the space inside him. If Smith fixes this problem, and the line stays spread out, 99% of Pennys problems will go away. His only dangers will be the same as any other SL winger, bombs, grubbers in behind, marking your opposite number etc, which I think he's shown his capable of, and has plenty of room for improvement in equal measure.
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| Quote: JWP "You didn't.
You agreed with his point, then showed yourself up again by banging on about how King had been a revelation for Melbourne on the wing, and how previous coaches were to blame for Kings form, as they'd played him out of position at centre.
Then, later in the thread, when picked up about Penny again, you go on about King, and how his poor form at centre has been because he's been covering for Kevin Penny, and that's why his decision making & positional play have left a lot to be desired.
You basically, don't like individuals, you make ti perfectly clear, and even when presented with pretty good points, resort to "Well, in my opinion, Kevin Penny is the weakest ...."
Kevin Penny has not played for Warrington Wolves in a side that has had a solid defensive structure, that he could become part of. The problems that Penny encountered, Matt King encountered against Catalans at home. They scored a try that floated over & past him and he looked the preverbial idiot torn between staying out wide, or closing the space inside him. If Smith fixes this problem, and the line stays spread out, 99% of Pennys problems will go away. His only dangers will be the same as any other SL winger, bombs, grubbers in behind, marking your opposite number etc, which I think he's shown his capable of, and has plenty of room for improvement in equal measure.'"
A lot of this stuff you have made up but well done anyway, a forum is all about opinions, everyone has them and everyone is entitled to them, sometimes people agree sometimes they don't, it's a way of life.
Can you give an opinion as to why Penny's defence is below average playing in the reserves
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| Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "A lot of this stuff you have made up but well done anyway, a forum is all about opinions, everyone has them and everyone is entitled to them, sometimes people agree sometimes they don't, it's a way of life.'"
No I haven't.
You do that stuff little SJM, not me.
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Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "Good point well made, King played on the Wing for Melbourne and was very successful in playing in that position so is it not the fault of the coach for playing King out of position in the first place
Although King was playing out of position i don't believe he was a liability and it certainly isn't a fact.
I would also like to reiterate that saying Penny is a weak defender is my opinion and if you watch the academy games, he isn't that strong in defence there either.'"
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Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "I believe King's positioning was poor due to him having to cover for Penny at the same time, i have seen Louis fly out of the line yes, but in the squad of players that we have Penny is the worst defender.
He isn't that good at defending in the reserves, or is that due to his centre being poor again
Where's the lies.
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| get a room guys
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| Quote: JWP "No I haven't.
You do that stuff little SJM, not me.'"
You said i was banging on about Matt king playing for Melbourne on the wing, i mentioned it once and apologised when i got it wrong. I have no problem with anybody on this forum, i done know 80% of people on here, i just don't agree with some opinion and i respect some people more than others (Rugby related) but again that's just a way of life.
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| Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "A lot of this stuff you have made up but well done anyway, a forum is all about opinions, everyone has them and everyone is entitled to them, sometimes people agree sometimes they don't, it's a way of life.
Can you give an opinion as to why Penny's defence is below average playing in the reserves
Why is it the two times I have seen him play in the reserves, his defence hasn't been below average? The other two games; we trounced Wakefield and had a close win against Harlequins.
You need to accept you are talking biased e.
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Why is it the two times I have seen him play in the reserves, his defence hasn't been below average? The other two games; we trounced Wakefield and had a close win against Harlequins.
You need to accept you are talking biased poop.'"
If a player or anybody deserves credit then fair is fair he deserves it but from what i have seen of the reserve games, Penny's defence wasn't the best.
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| Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "A lot of this stuff you have made up but well done anyway, a forum is all about opinions, everyone has them and everyone is entitled to them, sometimes people agree sometimes they don't, it's a way of life.
Can you give an opinion as to why Penny's defence is below average playing in the reserves
No, because it isn't.
There is no problem with his defence, he can tackle well. How many tries have you seen for the reserves where folk have run through/over/around him ?
The only problems Kevin Penny has had to date have been where he is stood, he must be partly blamed for constantly getting caught off his wing, but in equal measure he hasn't been supported by a dtrong structure and I've given you an example of when the same happened to Matt King. The way we set up with an 'in to out' look, asked for this to happen. The three defenders inside him didn't slide, and he was exposed, and sometimes he didn't help himself. This 'defence' thing is a myth, he's not been run over the top of time & time again, he's held his own many times face up, it's when he can't see his opponent, that's been the worry.
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| would anyone trust him at fulback, seriously if the answer is no then there must be some doubt to either his catching/positioning or tackling.
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