Carvells stats:

2003 - 21 appearances, 199 tackles, 1578 metres
2004 - 13 appearances, 145 tackles, 1335 metres
2005 - 19 appearances, 243 tackles, 1824 metres
2006 - 25 appearances, 482 tackles, 2289 metres
2007 - 17 appearances, 299 tackles, 1677 metres
2008 - 9 appearances, 155 tackels, 957 metres

So 23 appearances on average, 254 tackels, 1610 metres.

At £135k a year that's £5.8K a game, £530 a tackle 0r £83 a metre.

If you think he is worth that, for another 4 seasons, then good luck to you.

Hull supporters saying he is rubbish now he has left the club. Zut alors!

His average appearances are wrong there, more like 17.5 games.

Nobody is saying he is rubbish. We are suggesting that a player who has averaged just 17 games per season over the last 6 years might fairly be considered to be injury prone and a somewhat high risk for a long-term big-money contract.

And yes, we were having the same discussion on our board before we knew he was leaving.

Nick Fozzard joined Warrington with a terrible injury record. He then hardly missed a game in four years for Warrington and St Helens (until this season).

£135k my . This is Warrington, he will be on at least £250k.

I was one of a few saying that we shold not be giving him a big money contract about 3/4 months ago. He is not rubbish, but he is not a £135k a year player on past form.

If you can get 4 seasons like 2006 out of him then you're laughing.

We've ruined far better players than Carvell before now.

I'd be horrified if we signed this crock on a massive contract!

In fairness, in them days our props were held together with blue tack & a dozen hidden shin pads wrapped in 3ft layers of bandage.

[url=http://www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?p=1998Confirmed, good luck keeping him fit[/url

Oh dear.